Looks to me like this is a pre-application consultation excercise so there are few formal requirements for publicity. They come later.
I would like to add some concern at the bulk and scale of the building. Not so much on the SGR frontage but certainly on the corner of Lennox Road and Clifton Terrace. I think that the form should respect the domestic scale of the streets at that end.
@Kate, has the scheme been tested for its effect on daylight/sunlight to the neighbours, and also their Rights to Light?
@wideboy - "potentially iffy 'developer' motives'? Development is about profit and income. Simples.
@Kate, do you have some more images of the building from different perspectives? Unless I am being dim there is only one on your website.
I am not against large buildings at all and think that the area around the station is suitable for tall buildings but your site is the most sensitive in that it marks the transition from the "busiest station outside of Zone 1" in to a totally domestic area (both in activity and scale). Yes the precedent is set on SGR but this does not mean that this has to carry around the whole block.
Also, I would be interested to know more about the student use. I know there is another consent at the end of Fonthill Road, and also a big one on Holloway Road. What will the occupation patterns be because from my experience they are only 'vibrant' for about 30 weeks of the year. I assume these would have been 'normal' residential units under different market conditions?
Kate - thanks for starting the discussion.
From where I stand, the whole area around the station is a bit of a mess and crying out for redevelopment. City North is getting a bloody great big tower anyway:
I'm less interested in the look of the building than how it's used.
I'd like John Jones to be an anchor tenant for a site with a bunch of mixed use artist/creative businesses, somewhere between a Coin St/Oxo Tower vibe and the Chocolate Factory in Wood Green.
If the student flats could then be allocated to Goldsmiths or CSM, it could be fantastic.
If I'm reading this right, the grey building on the front left with the domed roof is Vista's currently stalled development
The road on the front left is Wells Terrace and the dark grey one on the far right is opposite the World's End.
Given the scale of the City North project, this looks more exciting if the tenant mix is right, with the only caveat being that the white residential ones might be a bit high.
@dorothy. My experience of employing new graduates leads me to think that if 450 students live here and a large proportion join the site we will spend our lives correcting grammar ...
Lots of families leave the area because of poor secondary schools.
Witness what happens at SG School. A lot of parents move when their kids get to about 8/9 years old to get into catchment areas of better schools than offered at SG.
That must affect the social mix of the area quite a bit leaving the less able to move youngsters and those who tough it out or have their kids travel. This kind of perpetuates the issue as the local secondary schools loose out as well. I don’t recon Haringey is doing much about this at all.
Many of the kids from Stroud Green go to Arts and Media, with 81% A-C at GCSE has much benefited from them, my kids went to Highgate Wood and didn't do well.
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