Can't argue with the N4 majority, as this surprisingly seems to be.
I LOVE N4............?
I have noticed them as well when I have to walk past them to a carry out from the Indian up the road, they are offensive and do look slightly worrying.
Sounds like the police are not particularly onto this one either ?
The local lot can be e-mailed at StroudGreen.firstname.lastname@example.org
Looking at http://www.police.uk/ it seems that crime is fairly steady over the last few months with about 1300 crimes within 1.5 kms of the centre Stroud Green (Tesco) per month so I guess the police are probably pretty busy getting that all written down and recorded in their databases.
Whatever happened to the black geezer (spare 50 pence please?)
I’ve spoken to Joanne over the years quite a few times as well. She’s from Glasgow. I’m not sure if she has got a flat or not, although I’ve seen her going into a place on Osborne Road, but also somewhere on Stroud Green Road. I would have thought if she had a flat, she would be in breach of her tenancy for anti-social behaviour by now.
It’s probably a good spot for begging. I think a lot of Stroud Greeners are quite sweet to her. I’ve seen old ladies give her sweaters, quite a lot of folk stop and chat and people give her food and coffee.
I’m a bit of a soft touch and usually when I talk to her she tells me what I think what she wants me to hear, which is; she’s getting her life together; is about to be housed somewhere away from the bad company she keeps; made contact with her children who were in care etc.
After ten years, it’s all worn a bit thin with me now. She makes a beeline for me when she sees me, and I tend to walk on the other side now.
Nonsense Checkski. She doesn’t have the civil right to live and beg on the street, as a point of fact. You may not like the language used to criticise – and fair enough. But it is neither libellous nor an infringement of rights to describe someone as ‘rubbish’. Impolite, perhaps. Your emphasis on that criticism - rather than the problematic behaviour that led to it - is misplaced.
So soon after your bikini post Emma...
Slightly prickly thread this and I've often started a comment and then deleted it.
I slightly object to the suggestion that posts influence the thinking of members, rather they reinforce existing values and beliefs. Although I, for one, enjoy the fact that posts quite often challenge these in me and I use my own reason and judgement to decide whether "I've got it wrong".
Such has been the case here.
I can't claim to be an advocate of civil liberties, but I understand what is reasonable and acceptable behaviour. I don't, for example, think its acceptable that everyone walks down the streets in the buff, though technically they could within the law. I don't find it acceptable that a small minority of individuals have the right to sully a popular thoroughfare or retail entrance, let alone display, unabashed, unlawful practices, such as begging, drug-taking, littering and generally being a public nuisance. So, that many sympathise with the camp is a moot point.
I'm for the "finding a solution to remove them" camp. And no, they can't stay at mine.
Just because I’m a knowitall gobshite doesn’t mean I’d make a good lover.
I mean I am a good lover, but it doesn’t follow logically…
‘Teats and Bikinis’ – finally I know what to name my band.
Miss Annie is taken but......
£25 ph and a bag of peanuts and she is yours.
@Checkski - yeah I hate it when that happens.
I think that the core of this disagreement is as follows: I and others don't think that the people in question have a right to permenantly occupy that piece of public space, begging, littering, dealing and taking 'hard' drugs in front of passers-by. To support our argument we have the Vagrancy Act, amongst other things. You, on the other hand, seem to be saying that we are infringing their rights in some way, but have yet to support this argument wih evidence. You have mentioned libel, but libel clearly does not apply here unless you can prove that they have been deliberately lied about.
As I and others have droned on about before - believing that that group should not be allowed to continue their nefarious occupation of the pavement is not the same thing as lacking compassion for the unfortunate. I take my lead from the founder of the Big Issue on this - allowing begging and vagrancy makes the problem much, much worse.
I understand, and broadly agree. This thread would have been a lot shorter if your last post had been your first.
Still, should you bump into Misscara at any point I'm confident that your fear that she is some kind of rabble-rousing blackshirt will be rapidly dispelled. In the event of her declaring herself fuhrer of Stroud Green I will eat my words (maybe even my hat).
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