My favourite book is Franny and Zooey. On the first page, there is a description of students waiting on a railway platform,
>*talking in voices that, almost without exception, sounded collegiately dogmatic, as though each young man, in his strident, conversational turn, was clearing up, once and for all, some highly controversial issue, one that the outside, non-matriculating world had been bungling, provocatively or not, for centuries.*
Which is pretty much how I feel about the tone on this site these days.
This site used to be useful (well, not that often). It also used to be funny.
It's become negative, sniping, personal and full of tedious, undergraduate certainty.
Oh, the certainty. It's so boring.
More succinctly:
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People I know have been coming up to me and saying that they used to post here, but don't anymore. It feels a bit like a really good party that all the interesting people have left, driven away by the strident voices.
This is a roundabout, reasonably pompous and self involved way of saying that I don't know what to do next. We've talked about suspending a handful of accounts, turning the site off, or trimming the site membership right back. These are all options.
Something's got to change. I want the old site back.
In the words of Bill & Ted, "Be excellent to each other".
And for fuck's sake, bring the funny.
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But broadly I agree that the negativity is very wearing and ruins the sense of community which is obviously essential for a forum of this sort.
I still think the word 'member' is hilarious.
Bagsy me being Referee.
Not everyone who visits stroudgreen.org has the privilege of being in on the party from the beginning or being part of the in-crowd so if that is what you want stroudgreen.org to be than it shouldn’t be open to just anyone, including me.
The site is useful to find out about what’s going on in the neighbourhood and I enjoyed some of the threads but to tell you the truth I don’t understand half the things people are talking about anyway. I have no wish to be a gatecrasher so I’ll respectfully make my exit.
I'd like to make it clear that my calling Andy a nob jockey is in no way a reflection of my true thoughts about him.......
@colette -- I'm game, but only if tongues are involved and we do it at X-it, Home, or Venezia they need the business.
******** down wid da H8rs*********
i also think that people having strong opinions and arguing them does not equal negativity, it equals good debate. what use is a conversation where everyone agrees?
for example, the comments about restaurants (the main reason mrs r_c and i ended up on here) and other services on sgr and its environs is a good way to gauge the full spectrum of any one place - look at the healthy porchetta vs pappagone rivalry that simmers away on here! it's genuinely informative to see a variety of opinions on any one place. if a bunch of people feel the need to dis a place, there's probably a reason for it, just as much as if a lot of people praise somewhere. it's actually useful, perhaps even valuable to get that kind of input.
The amount of business my social group gives that place, I can't believe it's not doing well! In fact, it has been packed the last few times we've been, midweek as well. Maybe they've outpriced themselves with the food?
Going there tonight actually, maybe I will ask the Richard Herring lookalike behind the bar if he knows anything...
I refuse to believe it. As Emma said my group of friends puts a small fortune over that bar. I can't believe it's not a viable business, it's now comfortably busy each night.
I do know that someone at The Noble reads these posts maybe we can get something from the horse's mouth.
I would love to buy the Noble.
Edited to add: We had to go to the Old Dairy instead. They ran out of cider (draught and bottles), house red, and toilet paper in 3 of the 5 ladies' loos. Really odd place, they just seem not to care at all.