Stroud Geen is in Zone 3

kreuzkav · November 2010

Stroud Green is not a suburb and not inner city but in zone 3. It's not Hackney or Camden.

Philistine'sMonster · November 2010

Bleeding genius. It's neither Hampstead, Wimbledon, Crewe nor Afghanistan. Thanks for this, though. You invested in a GPS system or sommat?

kreuzkav · November 2010

No...

kreuzkav · November 2010

I can't afford GPS, but I've been told it's Zone 3, is this true?

magicP · November 2010

Crouch Hill station is in Zone 3. Finsbury Park is in Zone 2. Therefore SG occupies a pleasing ground between the two.

taff bach · November 2010

Manor House is also in Zone 2.So are we outer inner London or inner outer London?

miss annie · November 2010

Stroud Green defies all boundaries.

taff bach · November 2010

If this is the case Philistine is correct and we can claim to be part of Afghanistan and can therefore legitimately have SG troupes there. The new electrical shop on Stroud Green Road is Afghani, I rest my case.

kreuzkav · November 2010

I think it is zone 3!

Arkady · November 2010

Were you under the impression that we didn't know your opinion already? It's already been explained to you why it's not that simple.

SimonB · November 2010

So which zone is Stroud 'Geen' in?

Marquis · November 2010

Isn't it stops that are in zones, not areas?

sincers · November 2010

2.5

Marquis · November 2010

Is this a quiz? Have I won something now?

David · November 2010

Archway and Manor House are fixed Zone 2/3 borders. As the crow flies that puts the lower half of Stroud Green Road into Zone 2, say up to the crossing of Tollington Park. If however you follow a more natural curve basing it from Hampstead, the other fixed Zone 2/3 border, you end up putting a portion of the upper half into Zone 2 as well. I'd say that puts the majority into Zone 2 and in general the area could be considered Zone 2 up to the Hanley crossing even if some of it falls outside of it.

<a href="http://www.stroudgreen.org/img/zone2.png"><img src="http://www.stroudgreen.org/img/zone2.png" width="420" style="border:0;" /></a>

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David · November 2010

This would also explain Andy's gloating when he discovered I was an 0208 landline and he was 0207. Seriously, he gloated.

ADGS · November 2010

The space comes after 020, dammit!

Besides, the 'phone codes make very little sense. A friend of mine was living in Whitechapel, and moved down from the fifth to the third floor of the same apartment building. His number up top had been 020 7; further down, it was 020 8.

David · November 2010

I'm fully aware of the spacing ADGS. I just don't particularly care for it in this context.

I too also think stations are in zones and areas aren't, Marquis. But thought I'd give it a go anyway.

Arkady · November 2010

David, I would love to be able to play around with google map boundaries in that way, but don’t know where to start. Can you point me in the right direction?

David · November 2010

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Papa · November 2010

I prefer to go 0207 or 0208 Can never understand why people go 020 Until just now I realised that actually if you split it like that you can just remember two sets of four numbers rather than having to remember three sets. The chances of retraining my brain now seem slim. Oh well.

Brodiej · November 2010

...and the requirement or benefit of defining which zone its in is........................?

ADGS · November 2010

Because 020 is the code. If you are on an 020 7 landline, and you dial another such number without the 7, that will not get through because you have not dialled the whole number. Conversely, if you dial the code every time, you are cumulatively going to waste a lot of time with all those unnecessary 020s.
(Granted, this is probably a bigger deal for those of us who a) grew up outside London where not putting in the code for local calls would save you four or five digits, instead of three and b) then had jobs which involved a lot of London-to-London landline calls. But beyond that, it's just *right*)

tosscat · November 2010

This is one (another) of my bêtes noires. I was living in Leeds when they changed from 0532 to 0113 and most people took the new code to be 01132 because it coincided with the addition of a 2 to the beginning all of the phone numbers. My irritation was exacerbated by the silly quirk of saying 'nothing' rather than 'oh' or 'zero', so the new code was 'nothing double one three two' followed by a massive pause.

David · November 2010

@Brodiej - you'll have to ask kruezkav. I believe he was willing to accept a bit of noise in the evenings on a Zone 2 high street but not on a Zone 3 high street. Then we couldn't work out what zone SGR was in. Or something.

Arkady · November 2010

@David – many thanks, that’s brilliant. And congratulations on your rationalist approach to the zone 2/3 question. If it wasn’t for the deleterious affect on comrade ADGS (and the lack of seating) I’d be leading the street-drinkers in a rousing bongo-driven chorus in celebration of your discovery.

Brodiej · November 2010

@ kreuzkav
Here is a £2 solution to your problem. Discounts for purchases of 5 units or more.

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Ian · November 2010

ADGS beats me to one of my personal pedantry favourites, the source of much annoyance to me for no particular reason but that I once worked for the telecoms regulator. Cue annoying discussions e.g. with one Government department after giving the number without the superfluous 020 London code: "is that 0203 or 0207". Me: "neither". Them: "but is it 0203 or 0207". Me: "neither". This went on for some time. The 7, 8 and 3 are not geographically specific, you could have an 8 in Westminster and a 7 in Barnet.

miss annie · November 2010

It was great when we were 01 for London, that sorted the wheat from chaff.

Philistine'sMonster · November 2010

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Genius.

miss annie · November 2010

For those who missed it or are too young/old to remember <http://www.stroudgreen.org/discussion/1835/rage-against-the-machine-june-6th/>;

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