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Stroud Green Winter Ale & Arts Festival - idea
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'The offices on the side of the church are used by CARIS which runs bereavement counselling and organises the winter shelter scheme for Islington.
Tel: 0207 281 5200.
The office of Community Language Support Services is on the ground floor of the presbytery. Founded by Eritrean women, it provides legal and housing assistance to immigrants in Amharic, Arabic, English, Somali, French, Tigre and Tigrinya'
'Probably because we don't have a shopping centre or branches of the electronic chains, we have been riot-free. So far. Tottenham, Wood Green and Hackney are quite near and there are Catholic churches in Tottenham High Road and Mare Street, Hackney. No sound from head office about what support they might need. Rang around the numbers of the senior clergy in Archbishop's House but got voice-mail replies. A couple of years ago I had a problem in August and was reduced to ringing the nun-housekeepers to find who was functioning. This time I got the director of communications: one auxiliary is available, in theory. The director said he took it for granted that we were kept posted about who was around: surprised to hear that this was never done.
Meditating on the reasons for the rioting. A sense of alienation, not belonging or needed? Mutatis mutandis, the same could be said of the laity and grunt clergy of the diocese, hanging on in a hopeless state without even the gesture of the diocesan pastoral council required by canon law.
This afternoon a response to the rioting officially from the Archbishop who is abroad. "Officially" because it could have been written by anyone. The director of communications this morning sounded quite lively, so perhaps it came from the auxiliary bishop on duty. Time for a spot of rioting outside Archbishop's House. Nothing personal: get it in while he's away. '
I'm agnostic (in the TH Huxley sense, not in the wishy-washy sense) but have no problem helping these guys out.
Hmm. Not so sure about there not being any atheists who say God doesn't exist. But happy to agree on the unknowability thing.
The St Mellitus Parish Priest's page is extraordinary reading - he's clearly not happy with the way the Church is going.
Ahem. Anyway, winter festival. Good idea.
I'm an atheist with no problem with going in churches. If God wants to strike me down for my lack of belief, that's up to him. And we're not agnostic about fairies or trolls because THEY EXIST.
The thing about churches is that invariably they are some of the nicest, most interesting buildings in any location, so anything you can do to help them stay intact and support their upkeep is good.
Stroud Green is richer for the building of St Mellitus being there and, again regardless of religious view, arguably richer for the support it gives local people.
Thus, paying to use their church hall is for the greater good.
Is the argument I would put forward here.
I'm in for a Winter and Ale Fair too.
I can understand the objection when it comes to money going to the church, but do we refuse to use shops and other businesses because we object to the way they spend the money. For instance, many of the shop owners round here have four wheel drive cars that end up polluting the area and running some of us cyclists off the road.
Overall, go for it, it's a good idea! Reclaim the winter festivals!
Festival sounds like fun. Let us know when you need help.