Somebody shooting up in the unused doorway of Tesco five minutes ago. It's back.I'm very sympathetic, but I really don't think in Tesco in Stroud Green Road in broad daylight is the place for this. This unfortunate guy should be in rehab or at least in a homeless shelter and do it in private. And Tesco ought at least to place a barrier across the unused doorway or deputise staff to do something about it.When I say 'in' Tesco that's what I mean - the pavement and that dorway (where the staff usually stand for a quick fag) must be Tesco property.
Did you call the police Krappy?
Call the police? ... expect a re-run of 'police and video' can't-be-ar"ed-to-care bus attack fiasco!
Added to which there is no doubt an Islington police, Haringey police demarkation running through Stroud Green to add potential mischief to police-response mayhem.
On a more helpful note, how about using the "I 'heart' SG" Twitter feed to mention this?
Was it the store manager?
Wonder if head office should be enlightened?
I'm feeling guilty now. Maybe my eyes deceived me.......perhaps he was just brewing tea - very privately.
If you report it to the police is there anywhere they can take him to (other than a cell for the night) where he can get help?
@gardener-joe: The Metropolitan Police cover all of Greater London except for the City of London (which has its own City of London Police) and the railways/tube (which are handled by the British Transport Police) although we don't really have silly jurisdictional issues in this country - all police have jurisdiction throughout the land.
You ought to ring Tesco. I saw the guy doing it there the other day as well, and the lady who is sometimes there was burning up something sat out in the rain on a deckchair under the tree. They obviously heard the pitch was free when the other two got ASBO'd away. I also wonder how they are able to care properly for that dog they have, so it could also be an animal welfare issue.
Everyone needs to stop giving them money. It is the money which keeps them there. It's quite a profitable pitch, the other woman was earning about £90 a day, plus food and fags donations.
Er.....I would kind of prefer it if there was some kind of joint or mutually-thought through approach to Tesco.Since this is such a persistent issue that Tesco seems to prefer to condone or ignore....maybe we should seriously suggest that Tesco / Tesco Stroud Green Store supports some kind of homeless / drug rehab project? And get these guys referred..... After all, these big superstores are always going on about their Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR). Here is a chance to shine right on their doorstep - literally.How about a joint letter to the Tesco CSR department in head office asking them to do something? Not too tongue in cheek, of course.
Tesco really don't seem to care at all, apart from the odd person in that store (the guy who only works saturdays is super nice) all the rest of the staff are generally surly and unhelpful.
As for the guy - seems if he gets moved in, someone else willl just take his place. Its frustrating for everyone.
I agree, stop giving money to alcos and junkies who live on the street. Even homeless and other charities have said so. It doesn't do them any good. I disagreed with the comments a year back about the people outside Tesco as it seemed a bit 'jumper over shirt' american psycho gentrified bullying sponsored by the Daily Mail. I didn't find them threatening and they never asked me for money but other's said they were. So whether that's true or not, I take their word for it.
Did some of the tesco people get asbo'd? I just thought it was the usual comings and goings.
PS I thought if you posted after midnight you would be told to go to bed! That was a test - apparently no nannies about tonight ...
I think we get until about 1 a.m. to post our random musings. Andy and David are far from being nannies. The night time closure is a fairly recent thing, it was meant to stop some boring (and sometimes offensive) posting that was happening in the wee small hours after people had had a few.
Late-night drunk posting can be funny, but ranting that was going on really wasn't. Tis a shame.
Andy and David have been very tolerant. Sadly, the internet can be a place to vent and I'm guilty of that. Luckily I've pulled myself back from the abyss of heavy drinking.
Well done Kreuzkav, You can see just outside Tescos where it can lead to
Have brought this to attention of Tesco but they don't seem interested - they could make a concerted effort to get rid of the bedding that is stowed on their land - although their security team seems as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike. As with the others who got ASBOs the guy with the dog seems to use a mobile phone a lot - wondering how he finances that - and allowing people to get stoned outside their door hardly seems good PR for Tesco. In an area without public lavatories it is not very pleasant for those of us whose gardens front onto Stroud Green Road.
In recent days some woman who seems off her rocker also appears to think SGR is a doss house - on crutches and in a bit of a state. Seems to have gone at the moment, maybe been sectioned? Someone else has also settled outside Sainsbury but not bedding down there. Can't understand why some special order is not made for the whole of Stroud Green Road (under by-laws) so that at least the police could act to move them on - the fact that this is on the cusp of Haringey/Islington maybe has something to do with it.
The dynamics may shift when the new Sainsbury opens near Finsbury Park Station - but that hardly seems the answer. These people need help - by the proper aid agencies and not people giving them stuff in the street, however well meant.
There is a local charity that works in the area that is aware of these people. I would recommend calling them as the more that call them the more they will understand the extent of the problem. Most of the people hanging around tesco's/sainsbury's are not homeless and are dealing with substance abuse problems, which is why they are begging. Some live in a local hostel that specialises in helping people dealing with addiction."Thames Reach London Street Rescue" are the people to call and locally to call is "Pilion Trust" at 0207 700 2498.
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