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£12.50 to drive your car - ULEZ coming to Stroud Green
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Have an older car and need to go somewhere, drop the kids at school so you can go to work, drive a relative to hospital, do anything else, that'll be £12.50 in a few year's time.
Sadiq has confirmed ULEZ all the way out to North and South Circular from 2021 - with no resident discounts.
This is an area that involves a huge amount of residents, completely wrong in my view and deeply regressive.
Hits ordinary London families the hardest.
The no resident discount bit is the worst.
http://content.tfl.gov.uk/ulez-boundary-map-from-25-october-2021.pdf
Sadiq has confirmed ULEZ all the way out to North and South Circular from 2021 - with no resident discounts.
This is an area that involves a huge amount of residents, completely wrong in my view and deeply regressive.
Hits ordinary London families the hardest.
The no resident discount bit is the worst.
http://content.tfl.gov.uk/ulez-boundary-map-from-25-october-2021.pdf
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Nice, hey.
Wowser.
Needless to say there are hidden costs and it starts to work out not in your favour, so my solution would be a truly affordable sharing scheme.
welcome to the 21st century - only 21 years late!
utterly pathetic.
so a few more thousand people will continue to die horribly in our city every year thanks to air pollution, our kids lungs will go on being weakened, and we'll continue to hurtle to irreversible climate change and extinction.
It won't effect many of the cars here anyway. Mine is 15 years old and isn't polluting enough.
If anything they should be more strict.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone#on-this-page-1
Use the rego checker and you can see how your impacted.
It comes in for the current congestion zone April next year. If you have a foreign rego and haven't registered it with the scheme it will be £200 a day. If you are out driving just before midnight then just after midnight it is two days charges
This has been fully consulted on last year.
It will be interesting how this is policed as it will be lot's of cameras although we are used to that around here as we have 18 of them beamed on us at Tesco's checkouts. Remember to smile !
I guess there will be an election which this will no.doubt will be an issue.
We need to be made to change.
Such a move is fine within the central congestion charge zone, but the massive ULEZ extension is residential London where normal families live - and forcing people who feel they need to own a car to buy a new one or be charged £12.50 if they drive is wrong.
What makes it worse is that it is at any time of the day or night, every day of the week, with no resident discount.
Rich people are better able to buy new cars, so this is regressive.
Making new cars is overall environmentally much worse than using existing ones.
The statistics on air quality mortality are nowhere near as cut and dry as '10,000 people die in London each year because of the air'. There's a lot of extrapolation, guess work and potential other factors if you drill down into the stats.
Most NOx isn't caused by cars, although they are the single biggest element at 12% for petrol and 24% for diesel. The rest comes from taxis, vans, minibuses, buses, HGVs etc.
Those are 2013 TfL stats and NOx from cars should have fallen since then due to the natural replacement cycle. What is pushing it up considerably is lots of extra vans from all the couriers delivering Amazon parcels etc.
This also fails to take into account how much people may drive their cars vs its pollution level. Classic cars pollute more but most do a few thousand miles per year? Should we wipe them off London's streets?
The goal should be to stop private car ownership in cites completely.
Everything about london's road plans should make driving your car more difficult.