It is back near Stapleton Hall, but not strong. This is the second huge leak with massive flooding I’ve seen in the last couple of years. I hope it’s just bad luck & not a symptom of underinvestment in replacing the major piping finally coming home to roost.
It has absolutely trashed a load of people's homes. I feel really sorry for them.
Thames Water is also among the water firms destroying the UK's unique chalk streams by tapping into the aquifers for water - at the same time as letting it leak out on a daily basis and in events like this.
Didn’t realise how bad it was. Made national news and people I know around the country I know were asking if our place was flooded. As you say @Papa I feel really sorry for everyone. It’s a tough area as well, people don’t need events like this in their lives to deal with on top of everything else.
TW is a very big organisation and I guess fixing leaks must be never ending. Bit like squeezing a balloon, when you fix one the pressure goes up and the next weakest bit goes out.
Worked out using a mixture of Papa's numbers above and the total water supply of 27 billion litres that they are loosing about 6% which is not quite a sensational but still a lot
Does anyone know how many miles of old pipes they need to replace? - it will be an awful lot as it is that last bit where the numbers get very large when you consider a connection to very house.
I know in the Telecom world there is supposed to be around 72million miles of copper in last mile of the network.
Do feel very sorry for the 61 households affected.
It's not just the UK either, I was in France recently and the town was full of rusted pipes and one poor geezer had an effluent pipe from the 1950's burst all over his restaurant.
Imagine the job of having to replace infrastructure across a massive city with hundreds of thousands of buildings owned by multitudes of different people - and then under the roads which you need to dig up on a daily basis. I don't think it's easy at all!
True, I have sympathy with the difficulty in doing it but it's made even harder if you neglect it for years, while leaching money out of the system to investors.
Haven't they spent a fortune doing thousands of miles of replacement of the old Victorian pipes over the last 15 years? I wonder how bad it was before then?
Seems to me that a preventative measure such as pressure management is probably on balance a good thing if it stops leaking and doesn't impact what customers get. I also hadn’t really thought of the impact there must be to water management when a residential tower block gets built. I wonder what impact the ugliness at FP station might have. Although it might not be much as I would image they are sold as investments and will be empty.
The problem is that we keep expanding the population and building more homes in London and the South East and never put the infrastructure in place to support it, from schools, to hospitals, to trains, buses, and wrecking chalkstreams.
It would take years to even catch up with what we have already done badly.
And those in power then wonder why people object to widespread new home building.
It's not because they are nimbies, it's because they're not stupid.
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https://www.mylondon.news/news/north-london-news/live-updates-finsbury-park-burst-17048769
Thames Water is also among the water firms destroying the UK's unique chalk streams by tapping into the aquifers for water - at the same time as letting it leak out on a daily basis and in events like this.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7542069/How-Feargal-Sharkey-leading-fight-against-greedy-water-companies-draining-chalk-streams.html
Thames Water lost 178 litres per property every day last year, the worst performance of any company.
To put that in context Consumer Council for Water stats show the average person in a two person household uses 300 litres of water a day.
So, each day Thames Water is losing more than half of what a customer uses every day.
Bonkers.
https://corporate.thameswater.co.uk/media/Facts-and-figures
TW is a very big organisation and I guess fixing leaks must be never ending. Bit like squeezing a balloon, when you fix one the pressure goes up and the next weakest bit goes out.
Worked out using a mixture of Papa's numbers above and the total water supply of 27 billion litres that they are loosing about 6% which is not quite a sensational but still a lot
Does anyone know how many miles of old pipes they need to replace? - it will be an awful lot as it is that last bit where the numbers get very large when you consider a connection to very house.
I know in the Telecom world there is supposed to be around 72million miles of copper in last mile of the network.
Do feel very sorry for the 61 households affected.
Imagine the job of having to replace infrastructure across a massive city with hundreds of thousands of buildings owned by multitudes of different people - and then under the roads which you need to dig up on a daily basis. I don't think it's easy at all!
Privatising water should never have been done.
I wonder how bad it was before then?
https://www.thameswater.co.uk/-/media/Site-Content/Your-water-future-2018/Appendices/dWRMP19-Appendix-M---Leakage-011217.pdf
Seems to me that a preventative measure such as pressure management is probably on balance a good thing if it stops leaking and doesn't impact what customers get. I also hadn’t really thought of the impact there must be to water management when a residential tower block gets built. I wonder what impact the ugliness at FP station might have. Although it might not be much as I would image they are sold as investments and will be empty.
It would take years to even catch up with what we have already done badly.
And those in power then wonder why people object to widespread new home building.
It's not because they are nimbies, it's because they're not stupid.