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Noise tonight
I am on the Upper East side and can hear a lot of noise tonight. Is something going on in the Park or is it an incredibly loud local party?
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Could it have been foxes?
It was my daughter.
All I can say is that any woman walking in that area late at night should be extra careful until he is caught.
I'm saying only that an extra degree of prudence seems appropriate at this particular time.
I'm very glad that your daughter is ok, thank you on behalf of all of the ladies here for the warning.
There is, though, and it's not your fault, something dispiriting about the implication that women who aren't committing crimes should have their freedom to move curtailed because men are committing crimes.
All the more so since the fewer women there are around at night the more dangerous it becomes for those women that are around. It's one of those infuriating vicious circles where the only sensible behaviour probably makes things worse in the long run.
Flashback to this: http://www.reclaimthenight.org/
I agree wholeheartedly with your point though I think there are other things to be said about Reclaim The Night at least in its earlier incarnations that I am more familiar with.
I am speaking here only in the most practical and immediate way about what to do until this disturbed young man is apprehended as I'm certain he will be.
My daughter--and I do not intend to sound patriarchal here--is a bright and fearless young woman who has seen many worse environments than this one.
I posted what I thought was a measured warning just because I don't want what happened to her last night to happen to anybody else.
Your daughter sounds like a splendid woman. Thanks again for your message.
I certainly don't want to sound alarmist.
I proposed sensible precaution not panic.
Yes, I can assure you that the police are very much involved.
Obviously If I knew who it was then I'd be helping to catch them.
There also was a mugging on the corner or SHR and Victoria about three weeks ago, which resulted in a full out response by the police that surprised me. I hope they catch the person(s).
If you're on the Upper East Side, does this mean I'm in the West Village?
@ Jeremy Fisher - I do hope your daughter is O.K
Having read about other attacks, it is becoming very worrying!
I am concerned that the posting of some recent events is contributing to a disproportionate sense of pessimism. While I don’t wish to soft-pedal the severity of these disturbing incidents, they’re not a new phenomenon, I’m afraid. I’m sure those of us that have lived here, or who have family or friends that have lived here for the past 30 years, have their own grim stories to tell. I write this not to alarm you but to put it into perspective.
For example: A bunch of guys once set their “status” dogs on a family friend (this was the late 80s, early 90s, by the way). There was a girl gang-raped behind the playground near what is now the Arts and Media School. A close member of my family distinctly remembers following a trail of blood to school where someone had been stabbed the previous night, and I’ve lost count of the amount of my contemporaries (I’m now nearly 40) that were mugged at knifepoint as teenagers.
There was the Fonthill Road Flasher. There was a very dodgy local bloke who preyed on schoolgirls. And does anyone remember the time the pub (now the N4) was bombed?
I expect it’s the same in Hampstead, Muswell Hill and other north London districts.
Finsbury Park has always had a reputation for being “dodgy”, but rather than getting worse, I think things are getting better here.
So don’t have nightmares … and feel free to share your own gruesome stories from the past, cos I love a bit of gossip, too.
X Phil
Perhaps anyone who hears of progress catching the assailant could keep us updated here? (Jeremy? as you seem unfortunatley closest to the police investigation).
I'm glad too Jeremy that your daughter is OK.
I have also lived here for 30 years.
I agree that things are getting better in many ways.
My motive is not gossip. I am not keen to circulate horror stories or spook people.
Philosophically, what you call pessimism is a more valuable starting point for me but this is not a philosophical debate.
My concerns here are immediate and practical.
I think that it's worth knowing even via this largely nuance-free technology what is going on around you.
Usually when these clusters of events happen in a small area they are the work of a small number of people or perhaps only one person. I'm sure that's true in this case.
Of course I'll pass on good news if I hear it.