Singaporean buyers for City North?

Arkady

There will be no need for 'walking all the way around to Fonthill Road', as there will be a new street leading from where the fruit&veg stall is now and connecting to Goodwin St - the entrance to the new western ticket hall will be at the junction of the new street and Goodwin St.  It will be, what, four metres further to walk.  You lose the cover, and gain in speed.  I vote for speed.

Sutent

Speed yes. They should create a special lane for early morning romantic hand holders 

Arkady

<div>It's almost as if you good people don't read and memorise all of my posts here.</div><div><br></div><div>The new street will still be 'very useful and ideally located next to the bus station'.  Here's a map showing the new concourse (in the green box) and street (from when the plan was to retain the tunnel):</div><div><br></div><div><img src="http://cdn.londonreconnections.com/assets/floorplan.jpg"><br><div><br></div><div>Here's a picture of the new street looking towards the Railway pub (the people sat at tables on the 1st floor are directly above the new tube entrance) :</div></div><div><br></div><div><img src="http://i47.tinypic.com/11wft47.jpg"></div>

minim

Thanks for the info @Arkady.<div><br></div><div>As for the old building, I walked past Goodwin Street yesterday and it (or part of it at least, I don't know what size it used to be) is still there.</div>

ChangN4N6

Note the many trees there....when is this expected to be finished btw? Chang

Tomtom

@Arkady No I don't think anything has happened since you were last in Goodwin Street. Thank you for the info!<br>

Sutent

@arkardy - what the people doing sitting at the tables?

Arkady

@Chang - originally 2016, I think it's slipped by a year though.<div>@Sutent - eating and drinking food that they bought from the cafe/restaurant they are sat in front of.</div>

Sutent

@arkady - thanks. I might of missed this but do you know how many, shops offices will be built?

Arkady

<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi">Good morning Sutent.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">T</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">his link shows the plans for the new ‘street’:</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana;"><a href="http://planning.islington.gov.uk/NorthgatePublicDocs/00196476.pdf" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">http://planning.islington.gov.uk/NorthgatePublicDocs/00196476.pdf</a></p>; <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">The first of these renders shows what the new Wells Terrace retail (with housing above) will look like: </span><a href="http://planning.islington.gov.uk/NorthgatePublicDocs/00196478.pdf" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">http://planning.islington.gov.uk/NorthgatePublicDocs/00196478.pdf</a></p>; <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">If you want details, the retail assessment is here: </span><a href="http://planning.islington.gov.uk/NorthgatePublicDocs/00196483.pdf" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">http://planning.islington.gov.uk/NorthgatePublicDocs/00196483.pdf</a></p>; <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">There will be 2.172 sq m of office floorspace</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi">436 sq m of retail floorspace<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi">9,665 sq m of flexible retail/gym/office on the first floor<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">This section has plans that show where the retail will go: </span><a href="http://planning.islington.gov.uk/NorthgatePublicDocs/00196544.pdf" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">http://planning.islington.gov.uk/NorthgatePublicDocs/00196544.pdf</a></p>; <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Hope that’s helpful.</span></p>

Papa

Well, there you go. Lucky we have your encyclopedia of development to hand Arkady.<br><br>That's a classic artists' impression though, isn't it?. I reckon there's a 30% chance of the new street, area etc looking like that dawdlers' paradise and a 70% chance of it looking like a windswept corridor full of flustered commuters. <br><br><br>

Arkady

I've heard that it;s either going to be 'like Wood Green shopping centre' or 'a playground for millionaire foreigners', occasionally from the same person.  I suspect, though, that these two things are contradictory.  We shall see.

yagamuffin

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">I doubt very much it will become </font><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font face="lucida grande, Lucida Sans Unicode, tahoma, sans-serif" size="2"><span style="line-height: 20.799999237060547px;">'a playground for millionaire foreigners' although I wouldn't be surprised to see the average 70% of apartments being bought by </span></font></span><span style="font-family: 'lucida grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 20.799999237060547px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">millionaire foreigners, just that they will never set foot anywhere near them.</span><div><span style="font-family: 'lucida grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 20.799999237060547px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div>

miss annie

Station shopping malls tend toward the tacky, they need to appeal to impulse buyers and emergency shoppers, I'd expect coffee shops, card shop, small branch of a supermarket, possibly a tiny Boots, a flower shop which will go bust quickly and a WH Smith.

NorthNineteen

I can't remember if I said this before, but the last I heard (Feb) was that TfL and City North were discussing who were going to put the application in for the new western access.  I haven't heard who is going to do it as I tend to only get quaterly updates.<br><br>In terms of what the new development will feel like, I think it will be somewhere between the two but I am struggling to think who may be based there.<br>

Arkady

@NorthNineteen - that's what I heard too.  at the start of February i was told that the Seven Sisters Road tunnel would be closed 'in March' for work to start on it, but I still haven't seen a planning app.<div><br></div><div>I seem to recall that M&S indicated they wanted some of the retail space?</div>

miss annie

That would take care of the small, station supermarket. M&S are keen on having station shops.

Sutent

<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">Thanks Arkady, as always. </span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;"> </span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">That is very helpful. </span><div><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">Hopefully we will get some nice expensive restaurants and bars on the roof terrace on top of the station. I can imagine sitting at one of those tables in the summer sipping a cold glass of Pinot Grigio blush and nibbling on some organic olives looking over the new road. I will hopefully be able to buy a bigger SGR property from all the money I will make from my current flat as well as my huge salary increase from NHS privatisation. The future for the area looks good and I have decided that I am fully behind it as I will be able to afford to live here. I am very excited.</span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family: "Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div>

Arkady

I like your plan, but I’m offended at the thought of ‘pino grigio blush’.

Sutent

Arkady you should go to Provence. The Rose wine is to die for especially sitting in a private villas next to the swimming pool makes it taste even better

Papa

How will people be able to decide which plaza they want to enjoy, the one at the back of the station at City North, or the one at the front by Rowans?<br><br>Choices, choices.<br><br>I'm thinking of starting a Plazafication thread but I'm worried it could trigger a universe-swallowing black hole.<br>