Falcon Man of Mayfair

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miss annie

Yep, I see him there if I'm doing Piccadilly windows. They've been doing Trafalgar Square for years now. I've seen them early at King 's Cross station and Arsenal stadium as I've been cycling around too. The Old Dairy has the owls for the same reason.

Sutent

Poor pigeons

miss annie

Pigeons are vile. Hawks are the best deterrent, they are there to let the pigeons know that it's not a good place to set up camp, not to catch them. Miles better than poison or those traps that dissolve their legs which had been used in the past.

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Arkady

Didn't Ken introduce them to Trafalgar Square, causing some controversy?

Sutent

@missannie. I hope you are basing your comment  about pigeons based on scientific evidence regarding them rather than a herd like prejudice,. 

Arkady

Hawk's gotta eat too, Sutent.

miss annie

All my prejudices are my own. Pigeons create a mess, carry diseases and transport cockroach larvae in their feathers. They also scoff all the food on my bird feeders. I do not like them at all.

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Sutent

@BenMyring if Hawks wanted to eat city pigeons they would hang out in the City<div><br></div><div>@Missannie I dont think Pigeons are  not any worse than any other wild city animal especially with disease spread. I feel sorry for them as they are hated by many, I think unfairly. </div>

NorthNineteen

I hate pigeons, after 2 years I think I've finally won my battle to stop them roosting on my house.  The mess and noise they make is phenomenal. 

Sutent

@N19 that is not a pigeon specific problem. Any bird nesting in any house will make a mess and lots of noise

Arkady

@Sutent - would that not be dependent on their ability to nest in the city?  Or are you saying that hawks dislike the taste of city pigeons unless they are brought their by a handler, in which case they figure 'when in Rome'?

Sutent

@Ben I think Hawkes can live in the city but they choose not too. There is plenty of food for them 

Arkady

<div>Do you have scientific evidence for that? ;-)</div><div><br></div>Chesney Hawkes lives in Oxford.  I once saw him play at the Purple Turtle.

Sutent

<div>@Ben. I can't imagine many people flocking to see Chesney Hawkes nowadays </div>

NorthNineteen

There's a difference between roosting and nesting. And I disagree, pigeons make far more mess than other birds.

Sutent

@Ben yes there is evidence. RSPB have a fantastic website

Sutent

@Misscara what nursery rhyme did you sing? "sing a song of sixpence?"

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Sutent

Did you eat city <span style="font-size: 10pt;">pigeons?</span>

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ChangN4N6

Are these hawks any good with cats? Chang

miss annie

There are some kind of hawks nesting on top of the Tate Modern, the RSPB are generally there at weekends to tell you all about it. There have been hawks, I think falcons but might be kestrels, on top of the tower blocks with the coloured tops near Mornington Crescent for many years and a few buildings in the City have them too. You'll rarely spot them but they are there.

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miss annie

Plastic, all along Crouch Hill side above the engravings. They are pigeon deterrents, been there ages.

Idoru

The birds on Tate Modern are Peregrine Falcon. The ones in Mornington Crescent probably will be too. Peregrines are naturally cliff-nesting birds, but they're adapting quite well to the urban environment and using tall buildings as 'cliffs'. You can find out more about the London ones here: http://www.londonperegrines.com/<div><br></div><div>City pigeons are generally the filthy hybrid offspring of an unholy pairing of Rock Dove and escaped homing/domesticated pigeon. </div>

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Sutent

So far on this forum pigeons have been described as vile, vermin and filthy. I think this is completely unnecessary <div><br></div><div><br></div>