Fly Tipping

edited December 7 in Local discussion
Is absolutely sky rocketing - yesterday I saw a guy blatantly dumping a whole lot of furniture (blue sofa, drawers, mattress) on Tollington Park, more or less opposite St Mark Church in the middle of the afternoon. Pretty sure he was a landlord/agent. Totally brass faced and no shame!
Still there this afternoon, reported it via the Clean Islington app.

Tollington Way, just before Mitford Road junction, round the corner from what used to be an Afro hairdresser - if you have a kid in a buggy you cannot go through because of the regularly dumped rubbish and need to cross/change route.

Area near the Tesco cashpoint on Hornsey Road - despite stickers saying area is monitored and threatening with fine it's always full of dumped rubbish.

What a joke!

Comments

  • I do wonder how much they're saving by not offering free collection anymore for bulky items, it still still pretty reasonable to be honest though.
  • edited December 6
    Assuming that what you want is for the rubbish to be gone, may I suggest you report the situation using the Clean Islington mobile app? It does work.
  • There is loads of it on the lower end of SGR near Sainsbury's and round the corner of Lennox Road. There it appears to be domestic rubbish left out on the pavement near Vista House or the social/affordable housing of the John Jones development. Seems that residents can't be bothered to use the bin-store provided. There's another regular dump across the road too, where a resident dumps supermarket carrier bags of waste on the pavement on an almost daily basis.

    I've also spotted staff from one of the restaurants on Clifton Terrace putting waste out by the bin in black bags - almost certainly illegal disposal of commercial waste. There is a great deal of broken-window syndrome going on here.
  • edited December 7
    @ gardener -joe the app works and it's a good tool, but what is the point in reporting time after time if the problem represents itself in the same places?

    I imagine the apps purpose is to collect data around hotspots and recurrent issues. All good, but there does not seem to be any consequences/enforcement. On Tollington Way and Hornsey Road by Tesco the issue is ongoing. I have never seen any commercial dumping, just tons of domestic rubbish from people who can't be bothered to use bins.
  • Frustratingly I reported something on the Islington Clean App twice and called Islington Council with no resolution. The fly tipping on my road (whilst very public), is set against some garages on private land, so they refuse to clean it up. Not really sure how to proceed but it’s be there for months now
  • I was wondering how this stacks up with Airbnb as well, I have noticed one sack left outside in a certain spot on random days, makes me wonder if that is why.
  • I can only restate that the Islington app works for me ... dumped rubbish cleared everytime within a day ot two. Similarly with the My Haringey app.
  • I have reported fly-tippers many times to Haringey and they even put up a sign in front of Cafe N4 (the old vagabond).
    I think it acts as a deterrent now as there is less rubbish there, but what I can say is that rubbish is unfortunately everywhere. I noticed that someone in the building next to mine put a sofa out for collection and seeing that it wasn't collected dumped it on the street.

    I don't know who did it, but I d love to report that someone from that building did it.

    It's so strange that boroughs don't try and make more money from this, as fly tipping and littering in general it's a gold mine. And could make life so much better for everyone.

    Oh well..I ll keep on asking explanation to the council, but I doubt it will help very much!
  • edited December 7
    lots of rubbish like an old bed and wardrobe just dumped outside Christ The King school on Tollington Park.
    The bottom of Wray Crescent is usually pretty bad for people just dumping stuff too. There's a sign there say £1,000 fine but it doesn't deter people.
  • edited December 9
    Islington seem to at least eventually respond to reports (although they close the tickets generated some time afterwards). I've had instances where they haven't responded and can give you the name of the person responsible if you wish to complain directly.
    I've seen no evidence that Islington is analyzing the data from the reports to do anything proactive. I've reported rubbish in the same place multiple times a week for about a year. It took an email copied to my councillors (none of which bothered relying) and a senior service manager at the council before they acknowledged the problem and promised to investigate.

    Both Islington and Haringey both use the same Clean Streets app - it directs to the appropriate council using GPS - only it's not very accurate and provides no means of correcting its errors. This makes reporting issues on Stroud Green Road difficult as it's on the borough boundary. Notionally, the two boroughs have a protocol for swapping reports when they're misdirected. In practice, Islington claimed to have passed it on and Haringey then do nothing, nor provide any visibility into it. The app remain inadequate and nobody seems to care (it's shocking that both councils are actually paying for this).

    In recent weeks rough sleepers have moved to the Haringey side of the railway bridge - presumably because of enforcement action across the road. The council needs to start taking action of its own.
  • edited December 13
    @ Marko - like you I am always reporting dumping on the app and I have done so for more than a year now. I put a complaint via the web form on the Islington Council back in March and cc'd one of the ward councillors, who said she would pass it onto the Anti Social Behaviour Team but nothing much has happened since. I may pursue it again. I agree that the council is doing nothing proactive to analyse the data for the regular dumping hotspots; this makes the app a totally reactive way to solve the issue. I also find it ridiculous that there are stickers threatening people with fines when nothing seems to happen. Empty threats never work...
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