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Beardy Charity Bloke
You must've seen him, collecting funds, handing out leaflets etc. often at Finsbury Park or outside the old Library next to Woody's, usually on the topic du jour. (Iraq, Afghanistan, Titanic Survivors).
He was at Harringey Station this morning - on the platform(!), collecting (I think) for nurses and teachers. Wonder what his story is? Is he a registered charity?
Often thought of him as A) a chancer who pockets funds or
Independently weathly with a heart of gold.
Anyone know him?
He was at Harringey Station this morning - on the platform(!), collecting (I think) for nurses and teachers. Wonder what his story is? Is he a registered charity?
Often thought of him as A) a chancer who pockets funds or
Independently weathly with a heart of gold. Anyone know him?
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His main poem is 'a tale of evolution, revolution, counter-revolution and the struggle for life in general'. And quite engaging, at that.
More than once I've seen him berating a pretend policeman, loudly proclaiming "But what law am I breaking? What law am I breaking?" and then giving him a detailed lecture on freedom of association, powers of arrest and the fact that PCSOs can't arrest him anyway.
Have to say I've not donated to him any time as the whole 'have a poem' stuff seems to be a way of distracting folk from asking for his registered charity status - i.e., he appears to be a freeloader who suggests he will fight the good fight on our behalf while we go to work to pay him to do so. Sure it's the dream job for him.
If I may get on my horse (it’s not high, but it’s fucking big) and join the ride…
Please don’t forget, you’re discussing two individuals here and you’re making some rather personal allegations against people whom (I presume) you don’t know.
I guess it’s fair enough to discuss local affairs, personal opinions, your own political biases and the rights and wrongs of history, but (and I’ll leave the silly ironic T-shirts and “passionate flag-waving” or “occupation symbol” argument aside), to start accusing people in their absence of ignorance, stupidity and, more seriously, fraud, is (at best) cowardly and (at worst) possibly even libellous.
It’s certainly rude.
It also cheapens your argument, as the chaps in question have no opportunity to respond. If you have allegations towards these good people, the decent thing would be to make them to their faces.
We only have your word for it that you’re eloquent, witty or charismatic enough to change people’s minds. Are you really less ignorant? Are you really less unbelievably stupid? I can’t speak for you. I can’t speak for the gentlemen in question.
But until you are in complete possession of the facts, neither, I think, should you.
Let's burn them!
But the fraud accusation, granted, could be on shakier ground.
There are lots of murderous tyrannies around both corporate and governmental.
Your own obvious need to over-simply and demonise is deeply problematic in my humble opinion.
50 million. 50 fucking million. This wasn't in a war. He just killed them because they disagreed with him. Or he thought they did. Or their neighbours said they did. Or he just didn't like them. 50 million.
To put him on a flag or a T-shirt isn't just insensitive, or politically incorrect. It's plain stupid. Either these people don't know anything about him, or they think what he did was alright. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.
I used to work for the living wage campaign. I've stopped working for the organisation, but I still very much believe in the cause. A couple months ago I went to a rally. It was led by a man I had never met before. He went by the name of Stalin. One of the organisers actually said, "Let's give a round of applause for Stalin," and everyone clapped.
After the rally, I approached Stalin and asked him about his name. It actually is his middle name. I asked if he knew that Stalin killed more people than Hitler. He laughed. He thought it was funny. It's not the man's fault that his parents were ignorant morons, but he's the one who chooses to go by his middle name.
And Jeremy, if you're trying to compare corporations that mistreat their workers and damage the environment with Stalin, you have really lost the plot. Or are you just spouting cliches off some posters you saw? Yes, there are a lot of baddies out there, but if you can't tell the difference between different kinds of wrong, there really isn't any point in continuing this discussion.
I bet Stalin probably killed more than 50 million, but it’s not Top Trumps, is it? Doesn’t make him more or less evil than Hitler. They were both bad sods. And so was Henry the 8th, but we’ve got pictures of him everywhere. Or was he not so bad because he just burnt monks?
There’s a quote about Stalin saying that one man’s death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic, which sounds pretty damned evil to me. But that may be attributable to someone else demonising a demon. Dammit! I don’t know much about Stalin. Can anyone recommend any good books?
Anyway, this bit interests me more, Rainbow Cranage; does the mention of your charity work in these sentences… <i> I used to work for the living wage campaign. I've stopped working for the organisation, but I still very much believe in the cause </i>
…pertain to this bit…
<i> A couple months ago I went to a rally. It was led by a man I had never met before. He went by the name of Stalin. One of the organisers actually said, "Let's give a round of applause for Stalin," and everyone clapped </i>?
Or are you boasting?
Reason I ask is because if it is relevant, you seems to be saying that the organisers of the Fair Wage Campaign are plain stupid. Which is scary. It also demonstrates how easy it is for good-minded folk to be careless with stuff like this, which seems to be what Jeremy Fisher is saying (?).
Peace.
He had a beard too.
(he had SIX of 'em if the rumours are to be true, heh heh!)
There's NO WAY Castro beats Mugabe on cronyism.
Coh!
I did go to one living wage rally a couple of months ago because it was at my uni. My friend and I were so appalled by what has become of the campaign we decided not to go back.
Hope this answers your question.
And "rainbow carnage" is a phrase from Hedwig and the Angry Inch.
Am scouring Amazon for Stalin books.