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Dog attack outside Bacchus
A lady around Stroud Green Road is the owner of an *extremely aggressive* small brown terrier. Yesterday, outside Bacchus wine bar, this dog without provocation attacked and bit another customer's dog and drew blood. In the last three days this same dog has twice attacked & chased my own dog, making her run off - this happened in the park, but if it had been on the street, my dog could have run into the road and been killed. The dog is sometimes muzzled but other times not.
I didn't witness any of these recent attacks myself, but I recognise the dog & lady as the same I encountered some weeks ago outside the coffee shop (ex Nomad) at Stroud Green traffic lights. On that occasion, the lady spoke to me to explicitly warn me the dog she was bringing out from inside was "very aggressive" & advising me to hold on tight to my own dog, and it would be fine. It was not fine at all. As they left her terrier lunged and snapped uncontrollably at us, terrifying both me and my dog.
The dog has now drawn blood. This lady needs to be parted from her dog. She is in denial. Yesterday she reportedly offered to pay the vet's bill for the dog her terrier had bitten. This is absolutely not OK. The lady & dog are around Stroud Green a lot & must be upsetting a lot of other dog owners. In my opinion this is a matter for the police or RSPCA. Does anybody know the lady's identity? Somebody must know who she is.....if a quiet word doesn't work, more drastic action should be taken. A muzzle is not enough. This beast is dangerous. Suggestions?
I didn't witness any of these recent attacks myself, but I recognise the dog & lady as the same I encountered some weeks ago outside the coffee shop (ex Nomad) at Stroud Green traffic lights. On that occasion, the lady spoke to me to explicitly warn me the dog she was bringing out from inside was "very aggressive" & advising me to hold on tight to my own dog, and it would be fine. It was not fine at all. As they left her terrier lunged and snapped uncontrollably at us, terrifying both me and my dog.
The dog has now drawn blood. This lady needs to be parted from her dog. She is in denial. Yesterday she reportedly offered to pay the vet's bill for the dog her terrier had bitten. This is absolutely not OK. The lady & dog are around Stroud Green a lot & must be upsetting a lot of other dog owners. In my opinion this is a matter for the police or RSPCA. Does anybody know the lady's identity? Somebody must know who she is.....if a quiet word doesn't work, more drastic action should be taken. A muzzle is not enough. This beast is dangerous. Suggestions?
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This is not an RSPCA matter unless the dog's welfare is a concern and I doubt the police will give you the time of day. It's not a police matter unless the dog has harmed a human, they are way too busy too sort out a dog who has bitten another dog and chases other dogs.
Terriers are among the brightest of the dog breeds and need a lot of attention and stimulation, they'll run rings round people and get bored easily. My guess is that the dog has not been trained, is probably bored senseless and has become aggressive out of frustration. Or had an abusive owner previously and that has made it aggressive.
We had a Jack Russell when I was a kid and they are menaces for nipping people. You have to train them properly from puppies. The owner needs to talk to a vet or see a dog trainer.
Dogs do sometimes chase other dogs in the park. Some dogs are aggressive, it's up to the owner to sort this out. It won't be a police matter to stop a dog biting another dog. As far as we know this has happened once and the owner has offered to pay the vet's bill.
“If your dog is attacked by another dog, the incident should still be reported to the police immediately.”
Less internet vigilante gangs, more nice conversation and help
(By the way, more humans are killed by dogs than by wolves. Fact.)
So, @miss_annie, if this sad little terrier bites and kills a child, will you still have the same attitude - its someone's pet, they should he allowed their indulgence?
Obviously I'm not going to dignify your utterly stupid question with an answer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-44072175
Nonetheless, from what you say, this dog is definitely a threat to other dogs, and may well be a threat to people too. It seems that the owner is being selfish and irresponsible, taking the dog out without a muzzle, knowing it will intimidate and attack other dogs and people. I agree with you; the dog needs training and perhaps removal from her owner (the owner risks being banned from keeping animals if she ends up in court again); there might be something about the owner's behaviour that (deliberately or not) is at the root of this. Offering to pay a vet's bill after an attack is no excuse to continue on in the same way.
@miss annie , you seem determined to downplay the seriousness of this; a bite that draws blood is more than just a nip, and can become infected. If this has been going on for weeks, how is it reasonable to indulge the owner while her dog is a significant threat to the public and other dogs? I think Krappy's question is justified; he's just extrapolating the outcome of the dog's behaviour to something yet more serious, but surely quite plausible(?)
I do so look forward to you not replying. Please don’t disappoint me.
I have received one further account on Twitter @stroudgreenguy and Tricksy on this forum has heard from a number of people through the Crouch End Facebook forum, all people (mostly dog owners) complaining of being bitten, attacked personally or having their dogs attacked by Elsie. I, personally, have no plans to go to the police (at this stage) or, as you put it @Miss_Annie, 'have the dog destroyed'. But I do think it's a sensible idea to keep a note of such stories, so that if (when) somebody else gets bitten in future and if enforcement action becomes necessary, the story is all in one place. So if anyone has anything to add to the dodgy dog dossier concerning Elsie, kindly share or, if confidentiality is an issue, send a private message either to me or Tricksy.
And with that, m'lud, I rest my case.
Down with pigs!