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ChangN4N6

My girlfriend's gym closed and she was told it was going to be a men only place, presumably a boxing kind of hang out. She was going to move anyway as it was increasingly run down, (but cheap) though the classes were good. She has gone to the one on Hornsey Road which is a bit far for me, but apparently OK. Anyway I thought I'd check out the said Paradise, as I have put on a few pounds since my bike was nicked and see myself as a champion kickboxer (in my dreams) . Well I Googled it, and I am grateful I did. This review paints quite a picture. Yoooo.

http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz/paradise-spa-london

ADGS

The comment about cruising in the Park surprised me - I remember seeing a lot of that behaviour when I first moved to the area, but haven't seen anything of the sort in years.

It'sChris

Chang, I have visited the new spa twice now, and the review posted on 'yelp' is very unfair and inaccurate. In my opinion this has been posted in a public forum to cause mischief; possibly by another similar business or somebody with a homophobic grudge.
I can assure you that in the correct forums on gay social networking sites there are 100's of good reviews and warm comments.

Arkady

Here's a serious question. I like saunas, very much in fact. Nothing sorts out my aching back and shoulders (I have terrible posture) quite like dozing in a steam-room. I very rarely get to do this, as I despise the thought of going to the gym, so it tends to be a holiday-only thing.

Now I know almost nothing about specifically gay saunas. Can those in the know tell me whether, as an extremely liberal but also legendarily heterosexual man, I might be able to visit this new sauna without the fear of being fisted without so much as a howdyado? I don’t know the etiquette, but I do look *great* in a small towel.

barnesbq

Don't go. Seriously, just don't.

Nobody will make you do anything you don't want to. It's not a rape den, my dear.
However you will probably find yourself looking at the floor, trying to avoid eye contact or constantly telling people that you are not interested in anything other than a nice steam. Chances are they will try and suck you off anyway and if they don't, you will certainly witness others being wanked, sucked and possibly fucked in front of your very eyes. Fisting usually not conducted in communal areas SO I HAVE HEARD.

But if you're feeling brave or fancy experimenting on the skin flute- why not try it?

Arkady

I see. I’m clearly naïve.

Being gay sounds fun though, congrats.

barnesbq

Nearly all my female friends whinge and wish there was something like this for straight people.
Maybe in the next 100 years we will have evolved to stop thinking that women with sex drives are worthless sluts.

Arkady

Pass me their details; I can probably rig something up in my bathroom.

Misscara

There are places like this for straight people.

Arkady

Are there though?

barnesbq

Torture Garden is hardly as casual, though is it Misscara?

gardener-joe

@Arkady

Blimey, you must be a real slack-ae if you even imagine you could be fted "without so much as a howdyado?".

Still, an intersting insight into heterosexual anxiety.

miss annie

There's Rio's in Kentish Town which apparently is like that but for straight people. Can't vouch for it as it's not my cup of tea so I've never been but it's there if you fancy dabbling. And I imagine it's more spacious than your bathroom Arky.

I have been to Torture Garden though and no, casual is not exactly the word I'd use.

ChangN4N6

Is this a family website?

Arkady

You're my wife now Chang.

Misscara

There are a lot of secret venues, centered around London and Brighton. They are mainly held in hotels (where the whole hotel is hired out for the event and tickets sold), or in very decadent private houses. Quite often details of the exact venue are not released until a couple of hours before.

Ali

Is this what used to be called swinging ?

andy

As much I am loath to steer this thread away from the drip-drip of revelations about stuff-misscara-knows-but-appears-reluctant-to-write-candidly-about-on-a-public-access-forum, if you want homophobia we can give you some homophobia: http://www.alansangle.com/?p=851 (published as an article in today’s edition of The Church of England Newspaper)

Four Eyes

Loving this thread. Beats talking about plumbers or pizza any day!

chrisn4

i am not homophobic because i am not scared of my home

misscara and miss annie,you both seem to know an awfull lot about the naughty night time antics of some people,i hope for your own sake that you two ladies are not involved in immorality,i will pray for you both to hope that you are not dragged into the world of sin,although as i don't believe in God i can't guarantee that it will be effective,i once went to a tarts and vicars party,but i can't remember if i went dressed as a tart or a vicar.i am afraid barnesbq may be setting a bad example for sg folk.

barnesbq,i did find your comments unnecessarily crude,i am afraid.if you find this patronising well i am afraid you do seem a trifle oversensitive old boy,no need to be a drama queen old chap.i don't believe most other gays would be this crude/rude,not at all.in fact they would probably make an effort to be a lot more polite,i think.please don't lower the tone of this forum barnesbq,we like to maintain standards on sg.org

barnesbq

And the prize for the biggest troll of this forum goes to.......

chrisn4

barnesbq,as someone who calls for tolerance of diversity with regards to the gay community,you seem remarkably quick to label or stereotype others from another community as a "troll" - a trifle hypocritical perhaps,but maybe the simple and obvious logic of this will go over your head.Perhaps some of the people who claim to be the most liberal people are in fact the opposite when it comes to things they don't like.

is it a case that if on stroudgreen.org you come from one type of "community" you get banned like slabber did,but if you come from another community you get to stay and play?

the words pot,kettle and black spring to mind

poxy

Where's the Ignore button?

Mirandola

Another vote for an Ignore button.

emine

barnesbq's (original) comment is the most enlightening I have read on this forum for some time! Probably the most informative since Krappyrubsnif unearthed the Stroud Green badge.

miss annie

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miss annie

Hello ChrisN4 Please don't pray for my soul, that ship has long since sailed Ta ta Miss A

Arkady

@emine: Don’t ask what exotic sexual ordeals krappy had to undergo to find the badge. It was like a cross between Indiana Jones and Deep Throat.

Misscara

I used to run a restaurant for a bloke whose other 'business' was organising such parties. He'd use my office from time to time so I'd overhear a lot of phonecalls Also, on a couple of occasions I was asked to manage the hospitality at the locations which weren't hotels, so I was able to glean certain first-hand insights without necessarily being part of the action. I know you would all prefer to assume I am a swinging deviant but most night's I'm either doing the crossword in the White Lion with my elderly neighbour, or at home working on my knitting.

chrisn4

"or at home working on my knitting"

is that a euphemism

so thats what they call it these days is it

quite outrageous what people will say on an internet forum these days,im shocked...

mary whitehouse would be spinning in her grave, gawd bless her

"i was able to glean first hand insights"

oh yes...enough said...as the actress said to the bishop

"without necessarily being part of the action"

methinks the lady doth protest too much

i think both misscara and missannie and other ladies on this forum know alot more than they are letting on...

spank you very much

fanks gov

carry on

vetski

Misscara, shame, was thinking "swinging deviance" might make a very entertaining talk to the SGWI once it's up and running...perhaps with some 'Knit your own toys' patterns.

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