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Lynne Choona Featherstone Interviewed by The Times

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  • chrisn4chrisn4
    <P>gardener joe - you replied. doh !</P> <P>being a troll is something bad - being provocative is good...but then people want to just insult others if they dont agree with them such as the hysterical over emotional gayist lobby do to anyone who disagrees with gay marriage - shows that those people who do that arent the right people who have the maturity to be parents themselves.</P> <P>mirandola - your yanky survey that you link to - how do you know that those kids of gay parents would not be even better adjusted kids if they had a mum and a dad - you dont know that - so to say these kids are well adjusted isnt relevant - </P> <P>vetski - your comments trivialise the debate . you say adults with ginger hair why should they have kids or black parents why should they have kids if bullying can take place.black parents can find a school where their children can be freinds with other black kids so arent isolated same with red haired kids - but one kid in a school with same sex parents can feel isolated as no other kids like him - its playing the percentages you do what gives your kid the percentage best chance of a good start in life   </P>
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  • chrisn4chrisn4
    <P>you've replied again.doh!</P> <P>for the sake of argument if i am a troll (which i am not) how come you all keep replying? you have to ask yourself are you a masocist? like a woman who is beaten by her husband why would she stay she must be getting some benefit from it - a codependent relationship - perhaps you are troll dependent...or just trolls yourselves without realising it...like rula lenska saying denis waterman from minder and the sweeney hit her,in the papers yesterday,why didnt she just leave ...she must have benefited from staying...sean connery said in 1987 that hitting a woman was ok in some circumstances as it was the only way to get some of them to stop their nagging and bullying and dennis waterman was saying that some women make men hit them - i dont agree with connery or waterman...but women can be codependent... </P> <P>i'm not bumping this thread if others dont...</P> <P>good afternoon to you Ladies and Gentlemen...</P>
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  • chrisn4chrisn4
    Euro judges: gay marriage isn’t a human right. But churches could end up being forced to do gay weddings Posted on 22nd, March 2012 Judges at the European Court of Human Rights have ruled, not for the first time, that gay marriage isn’t a right under the European Convention. Yet the Government’s promise that gay weddings won’t be forced on churches, synagogues or mosques may turn out to be a promise they can’t keep. The European ruling relates to an adoption case brought by a lesbian couple against the French Government. Gay marriage is not legal in France, and the lesbian couple say that is a barrier to them being able to jointly adopt a child. But the European Court says it is for each member state to decide for itself whether to redefine marriage. It confirms an earlier ruling, handed down in 2010, that related to a gay couple who wanted to force Austria to allow gay marriage. The court said the wording of the European Convention on Human Rights relating to marriage specifically uses the phrase “men and women”, and that the wording appears to be “deliberate”. However, if a member state decides to allow gay marriage, but treats homosexual married couples differently from heterosexual married couples, such rulings from Strasbourg leave the door open to potential challenge under European human rights law. So, if the UK Government introduces gay marriage but bans gay couples from getting married in a church while allowing heterosexual couples to do so, the UK Government could find itself taken to the European Court of Human Rights. The Government has repeatedly promised that churches won’t be forced to perform gay weddings, but a future ruling of the European Court could leave that promise in tatters. The Convention also requires nation states to protect religious freedom and allows for a “margin of appreciation” for each nation to resolve the clash of competing rights. Legal exemptions to general principles of law are part and parcel of living in a democratic society that respects differences. It is something that the European Court has long recognised and is reluctant to interfere with, but you wouldn’t want to rely on it. The European Court is constantly engaged in reinterpreting the fundamental rights which are so broadly asserted in the Convention. It’s not just European human rights laws that are a threat. According to reports, Church of England lawyers believe the Equality Act 2010, passed by our own Parliament, could force churches to perform gay weddings – or get out of performing weddings all together. The bottom line is this: the Government – no matter how sincere it may be – cannot offer a cast-iron guarantee that churches won’t be forced to perform gay weddings. It’s simply a promise they cannot keep. One thing is perhaps more certain. If the government redefines marriage, someone, somewhere is going to be hauled off to court (European or domestic) for their stance on traditional marriage
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  • chrisn4chrisn4
    <P>the above from the coalition for marriage website </P> <P>so churches will be taken to court if they refuse to perform a gay marriage...does dave n lynne featherstone know what they have started here? lynne featherstone cant even turn her boiler off without phoning the fire brigade so how can she have the judgement to destroy hundreds of years of the institution of marriage - there are 4 million Roman Catholic voters she has potentially alienated plus all the Africans in the UK the Muslim people - even guardian readers are starting to realise what is going on now they are learning about the issues - dave  cameron wants to show everyone he isnt one of the nasty tories and he is a liberal kind of guy - i think he has done his sums wrong as  when he realises what a vote looser this is for him in 2015 maybe he will do a u turn...  </P> <P> </P> <P> </P>
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  • chrisn4chrisn4
    <P>you replied again gardener joe ...doh ! (not a real gardener)</P> <P>the cheese eating surrender monkey frogs have made gay marriage illegal in onion munching frog land...</P> <P>what a terrible thing to have to admit that the frogs have got more common sense than the english on this issue</P> <P>nice to see that the european court of human rights sent that french lesbian couple packing when they wanted to adopt kids...cant believe that they have actually done something usefull for once...</P> <P>read the lula lenska article in the mail on saturday this weekend - about how denis waterman (from minder) gave her a slap...aparently she is alot cleverer than hiim and it was the only way he could shut her up from being a pain he says...he met her on the set of minder and was married to her in 80s and 90s...  </P> <P>ps do not bump this thread...i am not responding unless the thread is bumped...dont feed the facist trolls...(not me)... </P>
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