Footy at Old Dairy - own goal?

checkski

Spot on - although, being (or not being?) Chang, you may well be in your usual wind-up mode. I detest all background noise except for the quiet babble of conversation. Surely there would be mileage in a opening a pub or a cafe where coffee, beer, chat were the main items on the agenda. Above all, NO BLOODY BACKGROUND MUSIC! And I speak as a musician. Music should be listened to, not overheard. As background even Mozart and co become a nuisance, an infestation, a fly in your coffee, or worse, in your brain.

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Idoru

George Orwell would probably agree: http://theorwellprize.co.uk/george-orwell/by-orwell/essays-and-other-works/the-moon-under-water/

Marquis

Stephen Hough too: <A href="http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/if-i-ruled-the-world-hough-musician/">http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/if-i-ruled-the-world-hough-musician/</A>;

miss annie

Going to the pub to watch a film on an iPad is all kinds of peculiar!

kreuzkav

The old Dairy is a great pub and despite what people say on here I've always been served quickly and friendly.  However, it does suffer from a triple schiz.  Dining area, middle area with a good mixed working class middle class crowd and window area full of blow in toffs and scenesters.  It's all good and I like the window area.  But I understand the reservations.  The Stapleton is good but the bar staff can be quite unfriendly and the price of a pint is high.  It's a bit trying too hard to be cool with all the antique furniture.  The Old Dairy wins on being authentic but a bit schizo.

Peter Crumb

Yeah I bet the people moaning hate Spoons! Which is (supposedly) Orwell's vision.

ADGS

<span style="font-style: normal;">Except it isn't. They've always had pints in glasses - not the receptacles Orwell favoured. And while I can forgive that, I cannot forgive their change of tune on the screens. First there were none, then they would only be on quietly - but inevitably, once the screens are there, the rot has set in and on they go, blaring out sport bollocks (or on some surreal occasions in the WLM, </span><i>Songs of Praise).</i>

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miss annie

Isn't that church near M&S a Wetherspoons already?

NorthNineteen

It's an O'neils isn't it?<br>

quince

And previously a Firkin, with a vast papier mache pigeon suspended from the ceiling and its own micro-brewery.

ADGS

I love that place for its sheer scale. 

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miss annie

Oh, that place was awful!

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ADGS

There's a terrifying clip on Youtube of the club night there back in the seventies, Profoundly Yew Tree,