Oxford House Watch

Following a successful campaign against the planning application to convert Oxford House into 47 “micro-flats” little bigger than prison cells I and some residents are looking into trying to persuade English Heritage to list the building. Any local historians with information about the background of the building and old photographs of it are invited to contact us. http://www.stroudgreenlabour.org.uk/blog/oxford-road-update

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  • Have you spoken the the Stroud Green Conservation Area Advisory Committee (CAAC) about it?
  • <p>A coalition !</p>
  • I have been asked to post about an up and coming meeting concerning  Oxford House.<div><br></div><div>Please sea below</div><div><br></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Dear Neighbour<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">We knocked on your door last year about a plan to convert Oxford House at the entrance to Finsbury Park into 4<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">8</span> 'micro-flats'.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">That plan was over turned thanks to 40 local objections.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Now please find attached a scan of the letter some of us have recently received from Cook Architects about the planning application they have recently made to convert Oxford House into 22 student flats.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">They are offering to meet local residents at Oxford House to discuss the plans between 6 and 8 pm on Monday 11 May.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I hope to see you there and please feel free to pass the letter on to any other interested parties.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Cut and past of letter below</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">COOk Associates Architects Engineers</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Dear Sir / Madam Re. Proposed Development of 49A Oxford Road. London N4 </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I write regarding my clients building at 49A Oxford Road. We are architects and have been hired to help redevelop the building which as I am sure you will agree is currently under-performing and under occupied. We have submitted a planning application related to this site for 22 student flats. </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">We have taken a great deal of effort to design a scheme which will both achieve our clients and the councils objectives, whilst actually improving the relationship of the site to the neighboring properties. The footprint of the proposed building will be smaller than the current set of buildings. We have taken particularly care to improve the boundary relationship with Woodstock Road properties, instead of having a 2-storey building forming the rear boundary we will be creating a sunken landscaped courtyard and the boundary wall will be reduced in height by about 3 metres. This will substantially improve light into gardens and improve amenity and enjoyment for residents. The new building will be located on the other side of this sunken garden a substantial distance from the boundary or your rear wall. The scheme is designed to face Finsbury Park but there will be some units that face gardens. However, we are creating canted bays to avoid overlooking. </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></p></div>
  • part 2<div><br></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The proposed development will be car-free and therefore there will be little or no impact on current parking arrangements. Leases will prohibit car use and local ownership. As part of the development we are creating extensive secure cycle storage, nonetheless, we anticipate most students will walk to Manor House or Finsbury Park tube stations and will do so via Finsbury Park itself as that is the shortest route. </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">We do not see that there will be much increased foot movement in Oxford Road or Woodstock Road as a result of our proposal other than when the park is shut. There will be no regular car movements. Capital House 3 Jubilee Way Faversham Kent ME]3 8GD T.01795 532834/ 531002 F.0179s 535605 E. mail@cook-design.com W. www.cook-design.com Partners: Peter Cook Oipl Arch RIBA Geoffiey Burton BSceEng MrcE Associate: Samuel Bowman BA(Hons) DiplArch William Cook Associates t/a Cook Assoc ales VAT Beg No 316707365 As well as design, management ls critically to project such as this.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> Students occupying market rent flats can cause nuisance if they make a noise though 'partying'. Young people often do hold loud social gatherings. However, these flats are to be managed with contracts that prohibit Ioud noise or parties. Therefore we can prevent nuisance by use of legal contract where for market units only environmental legislation can be used. We do not therefore anticipate disruption. </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">We are of the opinion that the creation of a student housing in this area will benefit local people. Not only do students benefit local shop owners, the provision of specialists' student units reduces demand for open market flats. Without specialist units students demand can assist in driving up market rents to the detriment of local people. These units will address a very real need in London for good quality student accommodation.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> ln short, we believe our proposals will regenerate a building which has come to the end of its useful life, will benefit adjacent occupiers and address a London wide need for student housing. The Council will consult with you formally on our proposal shortly.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> But in addition we will be available on Monday, 11 May 2015 between 6 and B pm at 49A OxfordRoad to discuss our proposals with any interested neighbor who may want to ask questions or make comments. We look forward to meeting you and showing you our design. <br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><o:p><br></o:p></div>
  • What alternative use does anyone have in mind for Oxford House if it's saved?   Isn't there a demand for good quality 'office space'?
  • <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">The latest planning application Oxford House - for 22 cluster flats with 132 bedrooms - is now online on the Haringey council website. </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">The reference to find help you find the application is HGY/2015/1349 and the address is 49 Oxford Rd.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">This is  very high denisty addition to a quiet street and the accomodation is targetted towards students or at least that is waht the developers say.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Theer is justover a month to make submissions (approx 26 June). </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">If this goes ahead it will be even more impossible to get into the Fullback !</span></p>
  • Why will it be impossible to get into the Fullback?<br>
  • Because they are young, probably in cramped battery like single unit flats. And the Fullback is near.
  • Anyone who thinks that 132 students is going to make a perceptible difference to a pub that draws it catchment from 10s of thousands of residents (if not 100s of thousands) needs to take a reality check!<div><br></div><div>The Fullback is busy because it has one of the most interesting beer gardens in London and draws people from the whole of north London.</div>
  • It's already near impossible to get into the fullback. To be honest though I ain't that bothered as I don't really like supping my ale on a park bench in a scruffy poorly lit sweat box these days. Give me the Stapleton any day.
  • (though saying that if by some miracle you get a table on the terraces it's still worth a visit)
  • I agree NorthNineteen, 132 students is going to mean another 5 or 6 people in the fully on any given night. Students can't afford full blown pubs. Surely they'll be in their rooms doing untested MDMA analogues, as god intended.
  • I can think of many fantasic alternative uses for Oxford House, but they would require significant investment. What is Gemal College? Is it definite that this place will be used to create student flats for Gemal college? This property has great potential for many things, does anyone know who actually owns it? It looks like Gemal College are actually trading already and using this wrecked place as a college? Sounds well dodgy!<br>
  • The Gemal College website - http://www.gemalcollege.co.uk/index.php - has a link to the UK Government's Quality Assurance Agency for Higher Education (QAA), where the relevant report page - last report from 2014 - states: "Since the reports on this page were published, the provider has ceased to receive educational oversight by QAA." http://www.qaa.ac.uk/reviews-and-reports/provider?UKPRN=10002650#.V0zINpB4WrU British Accreditation Council reports are here: http://www.the-bac.org/accredited-providers/directory/13284/gemal-college/ In both cases Gemal College seems to've had a clean bill of health. Meanwhile, our councillor Raj Sahota's initial enthusiasm to take a leadership role in monitoring the goings-on in this building (see original post above) has - on this forum at leat - evaporated.
  • Personally I base my pub preference on the standard of beer. Sadly the ff fails on this front!
  • I wish they'd turn it into studios or workshops; I'd love some working space for artists in the area.
  • There are studios/workshops are just opposite in that big old white building beside Parkland Walk. No idea how you get in touch about renting them or going on the waiting list, been trying to find out for a couple of years.
  • Eeee, yes! Thanks Vetski.
  • An old train warehouse... I would love to go and have a look, @Arkady have you been inside? If it is half as good as the Dishoom site at KingsX it should be interesting
  • Nope. I think it's a 20th century building though, so it might not be as pretty inside (it certainly isn't outside).
  • Major work has started inside oxford house this morning. It sounds like demolition going on up against the wall that separates it from the Woodstock Road houses (where I live). *sigh*
  • jampamjampam finsbury park
    Oxford House watch. Complained to Haringey council after drilling heard at 9pm. This is their reply. Thank you for your email. Please be advised that in order for our Enforcement Team to investigate the noise from building works they will need to witness the noise when it is happening. During weekdays noise from building works should cease at 6pm. Please telephone us immediately if the builders continue to work beyond the permitted hours Regards, Mick Green Service Officer T. 020 8489 1335 E. frontline@haringey.gov.uk www.haringey.gov.uk twitter@haringeycouncil facebook.com/haringeycouncil
  • In the 1960s, Oxford House was occupied by Kay Laborotories. They processed film for the film (i.e., cinematic) industry, and were taken over by MGM. They also had a unit in Soho Square about the same time.

    (This is a mere aside, as work on Oxford House is well under way, and it seems they're keeping the shell of the building.)
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