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Slabber

Finnis was my tutor so I was largely brainwashed my his arguments and don't understand legal positivism.

tosscat

Home were selling the very same thing - it was more of a bubble than a bag mind.

Arkady

Exploiting people is harming them, therefore is morally bankrupt yes.

I got an offer from St Edmund Hall, but didn’t get the grades in the end so went to Durham for my undergrad. This was probably for the best. Without exaggeration all the other people in the JCR waiting to be interviewed were card carrying Tories, whereas I was wearing a Rosa Luxembourg badge.
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Slabber

That was just across the road. Teddy Hall, they called it. I had an EE offer because they still had an entrance exam in those days. (I did get straight As though).

Yes, there were loads of bigoted Tories. Eton Tories as well. I remember on the first day, some twat introduced himself to me "My name's Wolf. James Wolf. Dulwich College." It might not have been James.

Plenty of annoyingly PC liberals as well. They banned The Sun from the JCR.

I spent most of my time there getting stoned and staying up all night to write essays.

Slabber

Wadham College had a reputation for being particularly left wing. I went to a party there once. It seemed alright except for all the fucking student types with their moronic banter and upper middle-class perspectives.

andy

Chip on your shoulder much?

Slabber

Yes. I've been a student, I've taught students, and, in general, I hate them.

Slabber

I don't like you much either.

You can stick your banning stick up your arse.

andy

Slabber's contributions to date: A Narrative *Everyone's an arse!* *This is rubbish!* *I'm funny troll!* *Not really, look at my CV!* *I went to Oxford, my tutor wrote a book!* *Please love me!* *I hate you* *You're all rubbish* It's just about the most emotionally needy display I've ever seen. After calling everything rubbish, you switch to stories about how clever you are for going to Oxford but not being a toff or a lefty but a cool loner. Seriously, you post about the grades you were offered to go to university? Seriously? Are you Rod Liddle? Would you like a hug?

Arkady

He was responding to my question. You might be overreacting a tad.
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andy

Perhaps. It's the only tool I have left. Subtlety doesn't seem to have got me very far.

Slabber

Someone asked me what university I went to and we had a dialogue about it. What do you expect me to say? Shall I lie and pretend I went to Hull University? Yes, I'm a straight A student. So are loads of people. In fact, if you go to a private school, you get so well trained that it's quite hard not to. I got a 2.1. Whoopeefuckingdo. Yes, I'm a lawyer, a barrister, not in practice. So fucking what?

By the way, a two E offer used to be standard practice for an Oxford offer. I think it must have changed now since they scrapped the formal exam. Arkady said they didn't get the grades so I assume the system has changed to conditional offers. That's why I mentioned it, as if that wasn't obvious.

Are you one of those mods who thinks their little piece of the internet is their fiefdom? I'm an admin on another forum. I only ever delete people if they're really fucking stupid or racist or something. Or I redirect their IP to www.meatspin.com

Slabber

And I think Rod Liddle is sometimes quite funny. He did a nice piece about John Terry at the weekend.

krappyrubsnif

If you're not having your hug, Slabber, can I have it?

On second thoughts, maybe not.

Slabber

And politically I'm on the liberal left.

And I think you're a cock.

Slabber

That wasn't aimed at you krapyurbsnif. I don't think you're a cock. I haven't read enough of your posts to have formed an opinion.

andy

Bless your heart. I think you do need that hug.

Slabber

I think you need to stop being a cock.

Slabber

And spend some time at www.meatspin.com

andy

Three quick points: - You've been neither banned nor edited? So it's hardly a dictatorship. - 9 times out of 10 Rod Liddle is a fool on a wind-up and best ignored - We are lucky to have lots of very clever, well educated people on this forum. By far the cleverest talks ONLY about ice-cream and birds.

Slabber

You did allude to banning me when I suggested two threads should be merged.

You seem to have some issue with cleverness. I don't have a problem with other people being cleverer than me. In fact, I Iike people who are cleverer than me. I'm not sure what your point is. Do you think I think I'm cleverer than everyone else because someone asked what university I went to and I told them the answer? Or because on reading the forum from scratch I bumped a few old threads, some of which were with witty or not-so-witty one liners? Shall we have a who's the cleverest competition? I'm pretty good on sport, geography, politics, current affairs, law, and grammar and that's about it.

andy

Is this your forum Slabber? <http://www.surgicalaplomb.com/>; If so, it's utterly charming.

Slabber

Yes. We've got a religious theme at the moment, but we change the theme about once a month.

ADGS

In my experience of Durham types, they tend to be far more rightwing and Oxbridge-cliche than actual Oxbridge types, but I'm prepared to accept that I was just unlucky in which Durhamites I've met.

Slabber

Durham has a bit of a reputation in that respect. A lot of Oxford students are just geeks.

Arkady

My impression of Durham was that is was quite sharply divided between the bailey colleges, which tend to be populated by publicly educated Oxford rejects with far more of a hooray-henry image than the folks I know who went to Oxford (the latter were/are mostly highly-functioning stoners), and the hill colleges, which were much more balanced in their student population. The collegiate system seemed to create a sort of institutional identity for each college which exaggerated their best and worst features. Watching the rowing or rugby teams from the bailey out on the lash was one of the most distasteful things I’ve ever witnessed. And Durham Union Society has some of the most vile crypto-fascists imaginable. Beautiful city, though. However for some reason I don’t feel that inclined to visit, not for a while anyway. Though it has only been, what, six years since I graduated.
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Arkady

Which has made me think… I’m finishing my MSc at Birkbeck at the moment part time. When I commenced the course I’d say that around a third of the intake were the right-wing posho types suggested above, and I was interested to note that nearly all of them dropped out by the end of the first term. I’ve a folk theory that a private education helps people to learn by rote and pass exams, but once they have to operate critically at a post-graduate level they tend to struggle and not be able to cope unless they have strong natural ability – in terms of educational achievement the private school advantage only goes so far. I’ve seen one or two people having private ephiphanies in seminars when they realise that for all their bravado their opinions don’t hold up to scrutiny in the eyes of people who are evidently smarter than them, and usually they don’t come back.
This may be completely self-serving of me of course. The teenage class-warrior never entirely let go.
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Slabber

He started it.

Arkady

I resemble that remark.