<P>Brodiej - you may claim your £5</P>
<P>Mr D - but my argument is morally superior.I can't see the point you are making.Hardly patronising,just the truth.</P>
<P>If the local SG shops didn't sell high strength lager like Carlsberg Special Brew.Then none of this would ever happen.I blame discount prices in Tesco in SG rd...</P>
<P>PS - Tesco in SG Rd please can you clear up all the shopping trolleys from the pavement as I keep bumping into them and spill my lager when "trolleyed" (chuckle)...I can't be bothered to post this on the correct Tesco thread as I have got to make myself a cheese n branston pickle sandwich,hungry work spamming up a local internet forum...</P>
<P>next...</P>
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<P>I thought you said you weren't going to write anymore comments Mr D? Like that bossy teacher bird yesterday...</P>
<P>Funny how you see it as a 0-0 draw,I see it more as a 3-0 thrashing,a victory to me..."back of the net "(Alan Partridge)</P>
<P>Andy is secretly furious as his "Olymic flame" thread isn't doing much business unlike my ban gay marriage thread which is bringing in the sg punters,curtain twitchers,mrs mops and general sg bossy boots...who we enjoy...</P>
<P>the game goes into injury time...</P>
You've all got it wrong! chrisn4 is just trying to show the idiocy of the views he or she is appearing to espouse here, and I think we can all agree he or she has done an amirable job.<br>
<p>Ahh sod this it's just not worth the effort. </p><p>It has been fun and all that but whats the point, with the mouthpiece of the Daily Mail spouting regurgitated shit with closed ears.</p><p>Your the person who I avoid in pubs, the one who starts all conversations with "I have gay friends" or "I know some black people" you sit behind a screen and a keyboard attacking any and everything that you thinks is wrong, liberal or just because you are bored. </p><p>If you really feel that strong stand for office and let real people shoot you down, but dont decry other people feeling and opinions like there nothing but I am sure you dont care. It's just a bit of fun, a laugh for you.</p><p>One day your mask will slip in a pub or on the street and someone bigger and clever than you will tell you just where to get off, it may even be me.</p><p>Your the kind of person who is happy to throw a insult over the net in a virtual world where you can type in a nice safe place spouting shit.</p><p>Did you get bullied at school? As I did for 7 years and it will not happen to me again I can assure you of that, and this almost has a smell of someone trying to be a bully, a troll certainly. </p><p>Do you think that I really care what your stance on gay marriage is? I know I am right and I also know that given time it will happen. Your stance as a human being is more what I dont understand whats wrong with being liberal? </p><p>If you want to trade insults this is not the place to do it as it is a community forum and I am guessing a pointless waste of time but we should not be trading insults or trolling something that is a good and useful local site.</p><p>So that's it enough full stop, comment away I do hope they ban you or you change your ways as you and I have been spoiling this site and this thread it's not right. I wont comment again I just dont see the point.</p>
<P>Language Timothy!</P>
<P>I view sg.org as a bit like a London Gentlemen's club (perhaps like White's which is David Cameron's club,no women allowed).A roaring fire,leather chairs and sofas;a Jeeves and Wooster style butler...a glass of whisky or a glass of fine wine and some convivial company..talk of Binky and Bunter and being given the cane by the beak...but then occassionally some young shavers perhaps fresh out of "the school" blunder through the door and knocks some tables and chairs over shattering the peace... like something out of a PG Wodehouse novel...and then some gentlemen need to be issued with a quiet reprimand by an elder statesman...i hope this will be taken in the spirit that it is meant...</P>
<P>idoru - i am sure you know what you are talking about...</P>
<P>do carry on gentlemen... </P>
Largest Muslim group opposes redefining marriage
Posted on 20th, March 2012 The Muslim Council of Britain – the country’s largest Muslim group – has issued a statement in opposition to the Government’s plans to redefine marriage.
A senior Sikh and Jew have also expressed their support for keeping marriage unchanged. So too have the leaders of the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church.
In a press release issued yesterday Farooq Murad, Secretary General of the MCB, said: “Whilst we remain opposed to all forms of discrimination – including homophobia – redefining the meaning of marriage is in our opinion unnecessary and unhelpful.
“With the advent of civil partnerships, both homosexual and heterosexual couples now have equal rights in the eyes of the law. Therefore, in our view the case to change the definition of marriage, as accepted throughout time and across cultures, is strikingly weak.”
“Like other Abrahamic faiths, marriage in Islam is defined as a union between a man and a woman. So while, the state has accommodated for gay couples, such unions will not be blessed as marriage by the Islamic institutions.”
<P>It is good that the Muslim Council of Britiain has made this statement.It shows that they are standing for what is morally right.Although I am an atheist I have alot of respect for Muslim people's attitude on this issue.Good for them for standing for British values against the sort of libby liberal rude people who have written comments on this thread...</P>
<P>Famous ginger beer (queer) art critic,Brian Sewell,who is posher than the Queen,that's Her Majesty not Elton John,in his article I posted above on this thread - says he isnt a fan of gay marriage - quite right - in his autobiography which is now out in all good and bad bookshops Mr Sewell describes how as a young man he was a celibate gay man for many years,perhaps as he thought that God wasn't a fan of gay sex as he is Catholic...but then he packed in the celibacy after about 10 years and became a promiscous gay man.Good for you Brian... </P>
<P>hope that you enjoyed your tea and cake in bbm in tolly (tolly park) mr d...</P>
<P>we are into the last minute of extra time in the game... and the final goal could win the game....so...</P>
<P>the last person to write a comment on this thread can claim their £5...off to "the curry centre" opposite the old dairy on sg rd...notice the shop next to the post office is getting refurbished too on sg rd...</P>
<P>keep calm and carry on...as the old world war 2 propaganda poster read...perhaps some of the liberal head bangers on this thread could take that advice too</P>
<P>k..c and carry on... thats what carry on means...</P>
<P>last play of the game...</P>
<P>the rugby ref says that next time the ball goes out of play then the game is over... </P>
<P>elton john and david furnish are 2 of the most selfish people in britian as they have denied their son a mother.for me it shows the moral decline of england that these 2 selfish people can legally deny a boy his mother's love.and really it shows the decline of england that those such as myself who make this point are smeared as bigots and homophobes. ie suffering from a phobia. when these opinions are the result of logic and not a phobia which is an irrational fear.perhaps when the first celebrity gay wedding happens in 2015 then spare a thought for the child denied of a father or a mother by their gay parents.and think about how the bitter resentment of this gay selfishness will cause people to bitterly resent the gay communities attack on the right of a child to have a mother and a father.causing homophobia against gay people by people who want kids to have the best start in life</P>
<P>homosexuality between men was illegal until about 1968 but lesbianism was never illegal. Seems contradictory.As if homosexuality was seen as morally wrong for men then why not for women too.Maybe the authorities didn't care about women's welfare? Or something to do with Queen Victoria?</P>
<P>final whistle</P>
<P>game over </P>
<div><br></div><div><div>'the governing body of the American Psychological <span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Association (APA) voted unanimously in favor of a statement </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">that said, ‘‘Research has shown that the adjustment, development, and psychological well-being of children is unrelated to </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">parental sexual orientation and that children of lesbian and gay </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">parents are as likely as those of heterosexual parents to flourish’’ </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">(APA, 2004). The American Bar Association, the American</span></div><div>Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, <span style="font-size: 10pt; ">the American Psychiatric Association, and other mainstream </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">professional groups have issued similar statements'.</span></div></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><br></span></div><div><a href="http://www.rsu.edu/Faculty/RBoughner/courses/Intro/Alternative activities/Children of gays.pdf">http://www.rsu.edu/Faculty/RBoughner/courses/Intro/Alternative activities/Children of gays.pdf</a>
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<P>I've been trying to imagine where this argument ends. Extending the "logic" of the suggestion that homosexuals shouldn't have kids because the the kids might be bullied:</P>
<P>Nobody who has redheads in their ancestry should have kids - ginger kids often get bullied;</P>
<P>Nobody who is of minority descent should have kids (e.g. blacks/Asians/mixed in a predominantly white society, whites in a predominantly black/Asian society) - kids of different ethnicity often get bullied;</P>
<P>Nobody with the dyslexia gene in their family history should have kids - dyslexic kids often get bullied;</P>
<P>Nobody with an IQ below some arbitrary level should have kids - 'thick' kids often get bullied;</P>
<P>Nobody who carries a dominant or recessive gene for any potentially inheritable genetic condition should have kids - disabled kids often get bullied.</P>
<P>I must have missed some! I suppose it's one way to control population growth (forcible abortion? compulsory birth control?), but I can't say I love the smell of eugenics in the morning...</P>
<P>That septic tank survey doesn't prove anything love...now be a good girl and put the kettle on...</P>
<P>as for you vetski</P>
<P>firstly i dont believe that you are a real vet</P>
<P>and secondly its not just about increasing a kids likelihood of getting bullied - its also about the fact that a kid needs the skills of a mum n a dad the combined skills are superior to 2 dads or 2 mums.women are more emotionally intelligent than men and women have the skills to read their kids minds and find out if the kid is ill etc - dads dont have that emotional intelligence as they are out bringing home the bacon and have the skills for that - not always but a good generalisation - and if you say generalisations arent true then thats a generalisation in itself...</P>
<P>marriage is for the good of society in general - a place to bring up kids away from the gayist lobby who hysterically cry for equality - if you believe in what is best for the future of society and not just selfish needs then i am right...</P>
<P>if gays want something to look after get a chiwowa dog ...or a nice labrador puppy to walk on parkland walk </P>
<P>now i am off the get brahms and list ...</P>
<P>good day to you...</P>
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<P>to "not-a-vet-ski"- i think your argument is weak...</P>
<P>some people who have a brother or sister who is disabled in some ways and say their brother has to live in a home where he gets help... sometimes they do the selfless thing and dont have kids as they dont want their kids to have say some serious condition that runs in their family... alot of things run in families like mental illness or other conditions - some people wont have kids for that reason and i respect that - although they often keep this secret for obvious reasons... </P>
<P>as far as i am concerned the final whistle has blown...and the fans are leaving the stadium to go home...</P>
<P>but if you want to keep bumping this thread then that is up to you...</P>
<P>marvellous...</P>
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@idoru, thanks. <br><br>That got me doing a bit of an internet search, and led me to the recent Radio 5 DJ Richard Bacon's BBC TV documentary detailing his negative, personal experiences at the hands of internet trolls and cyber bullies.
So, a further refinement of definitions seems to be: <br><ul><li>a cyber bully calls people names and is rude, trying to deliberately upset or scare someone over the Internet</li><li>an internet troll is someone being intentionally offensive just to provoke a response <br></li><li>neither type is mutually exclusive and both can be persistent</li><li>do not feed the troll seems a good rule </li></ul>This image seems to sum it up:<br><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Z2Va6S-wRls/TYcQZmuPSYI/AAAAAAAAAKI/N9rkyluOyPw/s1600/Trolls-3.gif"><br>
<P>i thought this thread had ended - but people keep bumping it</P>
<P>arkady and andy - you keep replying. doh!</P>
<P>gardener-joe - i think you are a bit of a troll because there is a bad tone to many of your comments and for other reasons that observant readers will have noticed.also for example your mr wint comment on this thread.you aimed the comment at me and made it personal to me.then when i replied to you with an well deserved insult you deleted your first comment.</P>
<P>kreuzkav - did the same thing posted a comment that was at the maximum level of offensiveness that it is possible to be - you can guess what it is from his comments and mirandolas response on this thread - then he deleted the comment</P>
<P>miss annie - implied that i was a bigot on her comment on this thread - then got her boyfriend detritus to complain that she was upset when i responded in kind to her insult...and then detritus made comments that could be seen as threatening</P>
<P>this is a discussion forum of ideas - and player haters dont know how to discuss without acting in a bad way... </P>
<P>i think some of the people on this forum are immature and need to grow up and realise if they are going to insult others then delete their comments or just threaten others or say they are bigots then they will be responded to in kind</P>
<P>have a look at coalition for marriage website in news section - where news about how if gay marriage becomes legal in uk then churches will be required by law to have a gay marriage in the church ...this was not what ms featherstone and cameron were saying ... and some people say might lead to cameron dropping his gay marriage ideas as it will cause churches such as the one he attends to fight a legal battle to say no to gay marriage...</P>
<P>i am not convinced that some people on this thread are actually interested in the issues...as people are not posting links to news stories to back up their arguments - just childishly accusing others of being a troll or a bully...as richard bacon what a troll or a bully is ...totally different... would you call a newspaper columnist a troll - they are deliberately trying to provoke you to think with what they right - the job of a journalist is to make mischief ,be brave and make people think...a good thing... </P>
<P>some of you are acting like bullies perhaps - by repeating endlessly the same accusations...like arkady he repeats the same smears over and over again thread after thread...thats symptomatic of a bully... </P>
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