Train Geeks

miss annie

Even without the paint.

Sutent

Hopefully this will get approved so we can get to barking riverside easily from Crouch Hill http://www.railtechnologymagazine.com/Rail-News/tfl-seeks-cash-approval-for-barking-extension

NorthNineteen

Why would we want to get to Barking Riverside quickly?

miss annie

<p>I've been. It's not a place you'd ever want to get to, quickly or otherwise. Unless you live there and probably not even then.</p>

Ali

<p>It seems to be planned that there  will be around 20,000 people moving there</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://barkingriverside.co.uk/">http://barkingriverside.co.uk/</a></p><p> </p>;

Sutent

Below is from GOBLIN line user group: <div><br></div><div><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);"> Last day for through Barking - Gospel Oak trains will be Friday 3 June 2016</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Gospel Oak - South Tottenham trains will continue running on weekdays only until 23 September 2016</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* The whole line will then be closed until 7 February 2017 when rail passenger services resume with 2-car diesel trains but with contuing weekend closures until the overhead catenary is cleared for use by electric trains in June 2017</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* The existing 2-car diesels will continue to operate until early 2018 when new 4-car electric trains enter service</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Around 500 Overhead catenary support masts are required.</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* The pedestrian route across Walthamstow Queen's Road footbridge will closed throughout the works</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* About 1500m of trackbed will have to be lowered by up to 0.5m through Walthamstow Queen's Road and concrete slab track used to create required clearances.</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Road over rail bridges at Upper Hollway, Harringay Park Junction and Walthamstow Queen's Road will have to be rebuilt.</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* platforms will be lengthened to accomodate 4-car trains</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* The long delayed step-free access scheme at Blackhorse Road was expected to be completed by the end of 2016 but the DfT are now reviewing the funding they provided for this.</span><br></div>

Sutent

<span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">RAIL REPLACEMENT BUS SERVICES every 15 minutes increased to every 10 minutes Mon-Fri peak times</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">REVISED ROUTE 'T' BARKING - WALTHAMSTOW CENTRAL from 4 June 2016 until 7 February 2017</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Barking Station</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Woodgrange Park Station</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Wanstead Park Station</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Harrow Green (for Leytonstone High Road station)</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Leyton Midland Road station</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Walthamstow Central</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">REVISED ROUTE 'J' GOSPEL OAK - SEVEN SISTERS Now a double deck bus service</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">weekends from 4 June 2016, then daily from 24 September 2016 until 7 February 2017</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Highgate Road (for Gospel Oak station)</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Upper Holloway</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Hornsey Road/Hanley Road (for Crouch Hill ststion)</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Finsbury Park Station</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Harringay Green Lanes station</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">* Seven Sisters station</span><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><br style="max-height: 1e+06px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);">There is currently no information regarding any ticket acceptances by other bus or rail/Underground services.</span><div><font face="Verdana, Arial"><span style="font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px;"><br></span></font><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13.2px; line-height: 15.84px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204);"><br></span></div></div>

Ali

<p>I hear that Cross Rail is to be called the Elizabeth Line.</p><p>The Queen was around Bond Street today when  Boris anounced  this.</p><p>I think I will call it the Brenda line</p><p><img alt="Crossrail" src="http://source.tfl/images/Crossrail_small_rdax_150x166.jpg" width="150" height="166"></p><p> </p>

Arkady

*sigh*

Sutent

The Queen has already got the jubilee line named after her. <div><br></div><div>Will it be renamed the Lizzie line</div><div><br></div><div><img src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1665/25187177596_aea7b80056.jpg" alt=" "><br></div>

Arkady

I fear so.<div><br></div><div>I'm going to call it the Cromwell Line from now on.</div>

miss annie

Lovely colour. I won't bore you all (again), with my views on Her Majesty but I'm delighted about this. Softens the blow of the utter devastion of St Giles and the unholy mess and disruption of one of my old favourite parts of town over the past few years.

Arkady

I do like the colour, I'll give it that.

NorthNineteen

I always thought it was a joke that it would be called the Elizabeth line.  Beggars belief to me.<br><br>I don't like it.<br>

Sutent

Can you imagine what they would call crossrail 2? The Charlie Line. I think it would be loved by bankers and dealers

krappyrubsnif

Why not just Crossrail? Simple, to the point and not controversial. Elizabeth is just cringeworthy.

Sutent

<font face="Arial, Verdana" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal;">Not sure how good purple looks at Seven King Station </span></font><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"><br></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana"><span style="font-size: 13.3333px; line-height: normal;">https://www.flickr.com/photos/tflpress/sets/72157665012393305</span></font><br></div>;

miss annie

<p>It looks lovely. Is the Cauliflower still the same at Seven Kings @Sutent?</p><p>No one seems to have a problem with Victoria Line, you'll all get used to the Elizabeth Line eventually..</p>

ADGS

At least the Queen doesn't dissolve Parliament whenever she disagrees with it, unlike the hypocrite Cromwell. She's also been pretty good about keeping genocide of the Irish to a minimum.

Sutent

<div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 166); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 24.996px; font-style: italic; line-height: 28.7454px;">Drop in sessions at stations from Gospel Oak to Barking ahead of eight month phased closure</span><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 166); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 24.996px; font-style: italic; line-height: 28.7454px;"><br></span></div><div><font color="#0080a6" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 24.996px; line-height: 28.7454px;"><i>http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/drop-in-sessions-at-stations-from-gospel-oak-to-barking-ahead-of-eight-month-phased-closure </i></span></font><br></div>;

Sutent

Am already sad that it is closing already. It is such a useful line for me and I use it all the time. 

gardener-joe

...

Sutent

Thanks gj

NorthNineteen

Can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs.  Longer trains, higher frequency and quicker journey times will be a benefit for decades to come.

miss annie

In the meantime the C11 does Gospel Oak to Archway. Not too far to walk home from there.

checkski

Or add on the 210, from the shared stop at the bottom of Highgate Hill, to the last stop, outside Gadz. Perfect.  I travel that way to and from Belize Park 3 or 4 times a week, to my beloved University of the 3rd Age (anyone 60+out there? You should give it a try). Occasionally by train, in the past, Hampstead Heath - Gospel Oak - Childs Hill, which is quicker, but  I like buses, and am not usually I

checkski

(Sorry - technical hitch; doing sg.org is murder, on a tablet)<div><br></div><div>... in a hurry.</div>

Sutent

@N19 I know its for the best but I will miss the sound of the diesel engine class 172 accelerating. A truly wonderful sound

maclondon

The one disappointing thing is that TfL did not convince NR to be less conservative on how long it takes to do the work. On main lines like Great Western they are doing far more work with closures more like 5 or 6 weeks rather than 9 months. It's a bit like getting the builder around your house and then finding just one guy doing all the work rather than a small team! Oh well, it will be worth it at the end - just a shame the rail industry is not particularly proactive.

NorthNineteen

@maclondon yeah it definitely could have been done quicker, think TfL were just excited that Network Rail were going to find a scheme which provides a major benefit to TfL services.<div><br></div><div>The big difference with GWML electrification is that GOBLIN is through an urban area with quite substantial restrictions on night working.</div>